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Firefox 66.0 Aims to Reduce Online Annoyances

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Re: Firefox 66.0 Aims to Reduce Online Annoyances

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> Word processors? Only if you're requiring something like Markdown. You havent heard of LibreOffice?

Why would i install some hundreds of mbs of apps when i am complaining about javascript.

Because you don't have the redownload libreoffice everytime you want to write something?

Theres Ted if you cant stretch to libreoffice though. https://www.nllgg.nl/Ted/

Re: Firefox 66.0 Aims to Reduce Online Annoyances

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post #153

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Same. Have you ever tried to click a link only to accidentally click something else because the page won't stop loading? It's infuriating.

This happens to me every single day on the Windows 10 start menu and on my iPhone using the swipe-down search on the Home screen. Why in God's green Earth the developers who implemented these don't cache obvious local results (like app names) to quickly return them is beyond me, and why the position of the results has to move after the fact is even more maddening I typed "Arro" for an app I use last night, it took a…

On iOS I randomly get this weird lag when I swipe down and start typing an app name. Sometimes it shows LOCAL apps and sometimes it... doesn't. For a while. WHY, Apple, WHY? You used to "JUST WORK"

Re: Firefox 66.0 Aims to Reduce Online Annoyances

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Does this include Netflix? It's been getting really annoying to have random videos your mouse is on, as you scroll, start playing automatically.

Netflix is horrible for this. It's even worse on a smart TV, where navigation is already cumbersome enough without auto-play videos starting every time I'm on a menu item for more than a second.

Re: Firefox 66.0 Aims to Reduce Online Annoyances

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> With this update, Firefox is introducing scroll anchoring, which ensures that you’re not going to bounce around on the page as these slow-loading ads load. While I love the idea of videos not automatically playing, I'm almost more excited for the scroll anchoring feature.

Same. Have you ever tried to click a link only to accidentally click something else because the page won't stop loading? It's infuriating.

Newegg has been particularly bad with this in the past. Looks like they have fixed it now, but used to be that it would take a 0.5-2 seconds for their advertisement to load above the "search within", "only show newegg products, I'm not looking for an amazon experience", and "sort by" fields. Go to click on those (I always prefer "only newegg" instead of the default "all sellers"), and half the time I'd end up clicking on the advertisement when it loaded.

Makes me wish there was some sort of an understanding that: The thing I just clicked was somewhere else within the last 400ms, so click on what used to be there."

Re: Firefox 66.0 Aims to Reduce Online Annoyances

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They could be proper applications instead.

That has downsides of its own. For example, url sharing / deep linking goes out the window. I can't share what I'm looking at in macOS' Maps.app like I can on the Google Maps website, pure downgrade. I also don't want to download an application for everything. Very few things deserve a permanent spot on my computer. I have much less control over desktop apps than I do a website. Or look at macOS' News.app. Another do…

> For example, url sharing / deep linking goes out the window.

Yes, thats the one good thing about the web. But there is no reason proper applications cannot support this.

> Or look at macOS' News.app.

Im not familiar with that app but I guess its some sort of reader for hypertext documents (published by news organizations)? The one thing a browser is good at?

Re: Firefox 66.0 Aims to Reduce Online Annoyances

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post #233

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I have never seen this, so citation needed.

I think the GP is referring to not being able to install non-signed add-ons in non-developer versions of Firefox.

I don't know, my non-dev version has an "install addon from file" menu item.

Re: Firefox 66.0 Aims to Reduce Online Annoyances

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post #233

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I have never seen this, so citation needed.

I think the GP is referring to not being able to install non-signed add-ons in non-developer versions of Firefox.

Yes. You have to have mozilla sign your add-ons after every little edit you make or use the beta/dev with bugs.

Re: Firefox 66.0 Aims to Reduce Online Annoyances

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My company makes pluggable chat software. I'm sad about this development, because it means that we can't audibly notify users anymore when someone writes a message to them. I wonder whether there's a way around that, but I don't see it.

You are supposed to use the Web Notifications API and let the browser/OS choose whether it should play a sound.

Re: Firefox 66.0 Aims to Reduce Online Annoyances

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post #203

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Thats a false dilemma. You can have sandboxing without running pseudo-applications in a document viewer and without walled gardens. > (Also, what makes you think that the developers of bloated JS apps won't make bloated desktop apps?) Nothing. Its possible to create garbage desktop apps. But its impossible to create non-garbage web apps.

> You can have sandboxing without running pseudo-applications in a document viewer and without walled gardens. Please expand on this claim. What is a "pseudo-application" and what is a "document viewer"? In particular, how does having an app runtime outside a "document viewer" accomplish the goals you would like to see? > Its possible to create garbage desktop apps. But its impossible to create non-garbage web apps.…

> What is a "pseudo-application" and what is a "document viewer"?

Presumably, a webpage in a browser.

> In particular, how does having an app runtime outside a "document viewer" accomplish the goals you would like to see?

> I've seen tons of non-garbage web apps.

Good web software can't compete with good native software in things like performance and platform features, so this is my guess as to what is considered to be non-"garbage".

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