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Firefox 66.0 Aims to Reduce Online Annoyances

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Re: Firefox 66.0 Aims to Reduce Online Annoyances

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Serious question: do you remember the late '90s and early '00s? Have you used Visual Basic, or Qt, or anything? There was an era before web apps existed, and there were tools that made it easy to write and distribute proper applications - are you claiming that that didn't happen, or what?

I didnt, dymk did.

You're the one claiming that tools would exist to make it easy. I am saying that they did exist, and they were as easy as possible. What remains to be done, and why didn't it happen before the invention of XMLHTTPRequest? Could it get easier, and if so, how?

Re: Firefox 66.0 Aims to Reduce Online Annoyances

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Email clients, sure. Word processors? Only if you're requiring something like Markdown. Video chat seems right out, unless you're permitting a Flash solution, which would be severely cheating.

> Word processors? Only if you're requiring something like Markdown. You havent heard of LibreOffice?

Why would i install some hundreds of mbs of apps when i am complaining about javascript.

Re: Firefox 66.0 Aims to Reduce Online Annoyances

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Does this include Netflix? It's been getting really annoying to have random videos your mouse is on, as you scroll, start playing automatically.

I've pretty much entirely gone back to pirating because of those fucking auto-play trailers they have now (and this is on the Roku app, where Firefox wont' help me).

Re: Firefox 66.0 Aims to Reduce Online Annoyances

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Why not just block the audio by default? I don't care about the video, because any hostile website could still generate video by using gifs, or by playing a sequence of image frames using JavaScript.

> Why not just block the audio by default?

If the objective is to stop autoplaying sound, why solve a more general problem rather than solve the actual problem?

Re: Firefox 66.0 Aims to Reduce Online Annoyances

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Why not just block the audio by default? I don't care about the video, because any hostile website could still generate video by using gifs, or by playing a sequence of image frames using JavaScript.

The auto mute extension for Firefox does that petty well. New tabs can be at to open muted by default and you only need to use the standard ctrl m shortcut to unmute them.

Re: Firefox 66.0 Aims to Reduce Online Annoyances

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Indeed, the autoplay feature of Netflix is insanely intrusive. How are you supposed to let menus sit while you do something else, or even just read details.

I noticed something that struck me as an extremely dark pattern the other day. I was in the Netflix menu on my TV, and I loaded a show and was hovering over the "play" button, but figured I'd leave it there and not start it yet. A few seconds later, the video fades in and the episode starts playing! I didn't even notice it and kind of started watching the episode, but then realized that I hadn't actually started it m…

This only just started happening? I use a PS4 to watch Netflix and the auto-play has been happening for months. I find it so irritating that now I don't go to Netflix to browse anymore, because I don't have long enough to consider an option before it involuntarily begins happening to me. Now I only open the interface if I already know what I want to watch, which means I'm no longer exposed to anything new they add. That single feature has single-handedly driven me into being almost entirely a Hulu watcher, because I can browse their app and not be blasted by whatever the algorithm wants to force on me. If my fiance didn't watch a number of Netflix Originals specifically, I would've cancelled my account by now, and not out of principle or something, just because I cannot stand the autoplay interface. It's completely killed Netflix for me. I used to go to Netflix by default to browse, when I didn't know what I wanted to watch. Not anymore..
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