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Firefox 66.0 Aims to Reduce Online Annoyances

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Re: Firefox 66.0 Aims to Reduce Online Annoyances

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post #41

https://i.imgur.com/mzmsdzt.png They added this to my home page, despite the fact that my default search provider is DDG. Mozilla, could you STOP bundling advertisements into my browser?

Do you donate to the foundation?

They kicked out Brendan so no.

Re: Firefox 66.0 Aims to Reduce Online Annoyances

#183
post #176

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Its the other way round. If web apps didnt exist, there would be more pressure to develop tools that make it easy to write and distribute proper applications.

Serious question: do you remember the late '90s and early '00s? Have you used Visual Basic, or Qt, or anything? There was an era before web apps existed, and there were tools that made it easy to write and distribute proper applications - are you claiming that that didn't happen, or what?

I didnt, dymk did.

Re: Firefox 66.0 Aims to Reduce Online Annoyances

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That is the most pessimist comment on this thread. Javascript is useful, it is just a shame most people dont use it for good.

We cant ban just the bad Javascript, a browser cannot distinguish it from the good. And overall, Javascript does more harm than good.

> We cant ban just the bad Javascript

Well, technically it's possible, and even some parts of the script could be allowed to run or not.

> a browser cannot distinguish it from the good

But the user can. And the machine could help, thanks to machine learning.

Re: Firefox 66.0 Aims to Reduce Online Annoyances

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post #168

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Its the other way round. If web apps didnt exist, there would be more pressure to develop tools that make it easy to write and distribute proper applications.

Under what circumstances would webapps not exist in some form or another? It's a system for deploying applications via the web, and JavaScript is primarily the language that they're implemented in. I will bet you that in 99% of alternative timelines, we'd end up with something incredibly similar to what we've got today, and you'd still be complaining that applications aren't "native" enough, because practically nobod…

> Under what circumstances would webapps not exist in some form or another?

Browsers not supporting nonsense like Javascript.

Re: Firefox 66.0 Aims to Reduce Online Annoyances

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post #140

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We cant ban just the bad Javascript, a browser cannot distinguish it from the good. And overall, Javascript does more harm than good.

We'll probably just have to agree to disagree re: "JS does more harm than good". I have at least 5 progressive webapps open right now, none of which could work without javascript. Of the other 20 websites I have open in other tabs, none are being annoying or aggressive, and I'm not even using an adblocker.

Fair enough. Personally, I avoid PWAs entirely due to (in part) security concerns. But I'm also one of those who views client-side scripting as a threat vector, and prevent it when at all possible.

Re: Firefox 66.0 Aims to Reduce Online Annoyances

#188

Does this include Netflix? It's been getting really annoying to have random videos your mouse is on, as you scroll, start playing automatically.

Indeed, the autoplay feature of Netflix is insanely intrusive. How are you supposed to let menus sit while you do something else, or even just read details.

Re: Firefox 66.0 Aims to Reduce Online Annoyances

#190
post #167

Why not just block the audio by default? I don't care about the video, because any hostile website could still generate video by using gifs, or by playing a sequence of image frames using JavaScript.

Video tends to eat deeply into the metered data plans of many Internet users.

the alternatives (gifs, frames advanced by JS) are even more bandwidth-heavy
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