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Why would you think that?
Because individually they'll do a worse job of mitigating spam than if they try to mitigate it collectively.
Doesn't reducing spam phone calls directly hurt their bottom line?
Eliminating Robocalls
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Re: Eliminating Robocalls
#22Earlier quoted context omitted.
The point of the article is that the phone numbers that robocalls come from are trivially spoofed. So, it's plausible that these are real people's phones being spoofed, and it would be quite rude to them to publish their phone numbers in a way that could be read as indicating the number is a robot.
So it's preventing the equivalent of dialing random numbers and hoping it's a real person?
No, but it could be preventing the equivalent of "here is a random phone number I picked, please 1000 of you dial it".
Re: Eliminating Robocalls
#23I wrote a tool which uses Twilio to screen out robocalls: https://github.com/noah-huppert/human-call-filter
Hey Noah! This is pretty sweet. Would love to send you a t-shirt. Care to drop me an email at gb@twilio.com?
Re: Eliminating Robocalls
#24I'm waaay past trusting that network. I tell companies to text or email me. And texting is also starting to get spammed out. Right now, I can't even use apps like Hiya that implement prefix blocking. My method right now is to forward ALL calls to a google voice number, and those are transcribed or what-have-you. If you don't leave a message, I don't care about you. We need a signal, at the highest of levels to basica…
Gmail's spam detection basically eliminated spam on email, and it seems best characterized as a patch.
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#25All I really want to do is allow calls through to my phone that are stored in my contacts. If they're not in my contacts, I'd prefer not to be notified and have it sent to voicemail.
Re: Eliminating Robocalls
#26Earlier quoted context omitted.
Because individually they'll do a worse job of mitigating spam than if they try to mitigate it collectively.
Doesn't reducing spam phone calls directly hurt their bottom line?
Depends if they're thinking short term or long term. I think I've seen numbers showing phone calls are dropping already. Increasing spam will exacerbate that.
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#27Earlier quoted context omitted.
The point of the article is that the phone numbers that robocalls come from are trivially spoofed. So, it's plausible that these are real people's phones being spoofed, and it would be quite rude to them to publish their phone numbers in a way that could be read as indicating the number is a robot.
So it's preventing the equivalent of dialing random numbers and hoping it's a real person?
No. When you get a spam call, the caller ID is often not random. It's usually the number of some other person on the spam caller's list of people to call, often someone from your same area code. That way, you see a call from your area code and are more likely to answer it. If you get upset and call it back, you won't be calling the spammer. You'll be calling some other innocent victim of the spammer.
Re: Eliminating Robocalls
#28I'm waaay past trusting that network. I tell companies to text or email me. And texting is also starting to get spammed out. Right now, I can't even use apps like Hiya that implement prefix blocking. My method right now is to forward ALL calls to a google voice number, and those are transcribed or what-have-you. If you don't leave a message, I don't care about you. We need a signal, at the highest of levels to basica…
Yes - a contact whitelist is all I want from iOS with two features: a button to temporarily allow all calls for 30min (for Uber/door dash) and the option to allow a second call to come through from an unknown number if it’s within 2min of the first.
All other calls should go to voicemail by default.
The way Apple allows you to interact with CallKit makes this hard to implement because a blacklist of numbers is required and a blacklist of all numbers is huge.
Re: Eliminating Robocalls
#29I just never answer calls or listen to voicemail anymore. I use WhatsApp etc. and give folks that ID. Maybe in a few years the phone companies will implement some of cool stuff mentioned in the article but until then phone calls from everyone are blacklisted.
Re: Eliminating Robocalls
#30I'm waaay past trusting that network. I tell companies to text or email me. And texting is also starting to get spammed out. Right now, I can't even use apps like Hiya that implement prefix blocking. My method right now is to forward ALL calls to a google voice number, and those are transcribed or what-have-you. If you don't leave a message, I don't care about you. We need a signal, at the highest of levels to basica…
I'm actually hoping that robocalls are the downfall of the PSTN and big telcos. They are immovable monsters and have outlived their reign in this world.