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Italy bans unvaccinated children from school

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Re: Italy bans unvaccinated children from school

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Last month, an eight-year-old recovering from cancer was unable to attend school in Rome due to his weak immune system.

The child had spent months receiving treatment for leukaemia, but was at risk of infection because a proportion of pupils in the school had not been vaccination

Even vaccinated kids can be carrier of patogens. BBC should have better level.

Re: Italy bans unvaccinated children from school

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They will have problems with United Nations Universal Declaration of Human Rights: "26. The Right to Education. Education is a right. Primary school should be free. ..." Since primary school is a human right, nobody can ban you from primary school!

Which is why those parents get fined instead. Actually reading the article helps.

Re: Italy bans unvaccinated children from school

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Last month, an eight-year-old recovering from cancer was unable to attend school in Rome due to his weak immune system. The child had spent months receiving treatment for leukaemia, but was at risk of infection because a proportion of pupils in the school had not been vaccination Even vaccinated kids can be carrier of patogens. BBC should have better level.

True, but vaccine preventable diseases are often far worse and far more contagious then other diseases.

Re: Italy bans unvaccinated children from school

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I would be interested to know if any Italians (or otherwise knowledgable people) are here who can comment on this anecdote: I once stayed with some Italians near Pisa, who were home schooling their children. They said that corrupt and ignorant politicians have added unnecessary vaccines to the list of requirements, due to lobbying/collusion with pharma companies and as a way to influence elections. As a result, some…

Not even sure you can home school children in Italy. I don't think so, schooling is mandatory up to a certain age. Anyway, I've never heard of anyone doing it.

You can, but only terrible people do it.

EDIT: keep in mind that the public school system will bend over backwards to integrate and accomodate even the most problematic special needs children. It's among the few things that it does really well.

Re: Italy bans unvaccinated children from school

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I would be interested to know if any Italians (or otherwise knowledgable people) are here who can comment on this anecdote: I once stayed with some Italians near Pisa, who were home schooling their children. They said that corrupt and ignorant politicians have added unnecessary vaccines to the list of requirements, due to lobbying/collusion with pharma companies and as a way to influence elections. As a result, some…

There's no requirement or limitation to become a private school, taking part of a public exam at the end of each cycle is sufficient. I think homeschooling would fall under being a really really small private school.

but it's weird since the passed law is only about children before the primary cycle.

there's an impeding lawsuit that might change that, however italian case law is case by case, it's hard for precedents to become case law since there's no equivalent here afaik

Re: Italy bans unvaccinated children from school

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> if only we could make this happen here in the US! Hmm, isn't it already required in US? When I sent my son to first grade this year they asked us to verify that we have all the necessary vaccines, without it they would not allow us to register.

IIRC, many school districts have allowed conscientious objection to vaccination requirements.

Or religious exemptions, which it seems have become a catch all category in some places.

Re: Italy bans unvaccinated children from school

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Fantastic (note that the article mentions (or at least hints at) medical exemptions, which of course makes sense)! Now ... if only we could make this happen here in the US!

If that's what you want, don't wait for the institution of a national policy. Talk to your local Board of Education.

I don’t think they have the power.

Re: Italy bans unvaccinated children from school

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post #19

They will have problems with United Nations Universal Declaration of Human Rights: "26. The Right to Education. Education is a right. Primary school should be free. ..." Since primary school is a human right, nobody can ban you from primary school!

Providing a safe environment for children to learn enhances their access to an education. Having a child's classmates up to date on their vaccines is a great way to promote a safe and healthy learning environment for everyone (especially the immunocompromised).

Schools can require proper attire, #2 pencils, and textbooks while not running afoul of the UN DoHR. Same should go for proper vaccination.

Re: Italy bans unvaccinated children from school

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I would be interested to know if any Italians (or otherwise knowledgable people) are here who can comment on this anecdote: I once stayed with some Italians near Pisa, who were home schooling their children. They said that corrupt and ignorant politicians have added unnecessary vaccines to the list of requirements, due to lobbying/collusion with pharma companies and as a way to influence elections. As a result, some…

I am Italian. Those people were anti-vaxers. That's a typical conspiracy theory among them.

Just so that you know, vaccines are the most cost effective form of public health intervention and the profit margins on them are thin, it would not make any sense to do what they told you. The election part is obviously insane.

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