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I grew up eating foods with MSG. I'm usually aware of it. It's one of cooks' favorite abused ingredients. Eating a lot of MSG is bad, just like eating a lot of anything, sugar, salt.
Would you drink a can of pop in which 30g of sugar were replaced with 30g of MSG?
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This seems: 1 - not to have been published in any peer-reviewed journals 2 - a study on rats 3 - the rats were injected with MSG intravenously 4 - the amount of MSG injected intravenously was 50mg/kg, which would be equivalent to 2.5 grams of MSG for a 50kg person Because of all of the above, it's not clear whether it's good science, and not clear if any of this research applies to humans, who normally don't inject g…
> 2.5 grams of msg for a 50kg person MSG is slightly more dense than sugar, with a specific gravity of 1.6 and comes in a crystalline form that resembles sugar. 4 grams of sugar is about a teaspoon, and the same can be expected of MSG. They can easily dump half a teaspoon of the stuff into your soup or sauce in a restaurant, treating it like salt or sugar. This amazing paper is valuable not just for its work on rats,…
The injection/ingestion distinction is important, because when one ingests something, the entire quantity is not instantly dumped in to the bloodstream as it is when injected. The food MSG is ingested with might also have an effect on its rate of absorption and its effects. It might also undergo some changes in the digestive tract before it gets in to the blood stream.
MSG got caught up in an extended wave of unease against artificial preservatives, artificial colors, trans fats, and even high fructose corn syrup. Smart companies picked up on "changing consumer preference", and replaced these until a few years passed and the hysteria began to die down.
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Would you drink a can of pop in which 30g of sugar were replaced with 30g of MSG?
That would taste terrible! More on point: ingesting 30g of MSG is probably less harmful than 30g of sugar.
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Not sure you've "proven" it's MSG though. Warm up some chocolate cubes, sprinkle msg and sandwich the cubes so it's in the middle. Then ask an SO to randomize and give you chocolate with or without msg every few days without telling you and note when you get headaches. My initial guess is that doing this 6-9 times you should get sufficient signal (if it's indeed true that MSG absolutely gives you headaches Everytime…
You’d need to administer it in such a way that you can’t detect it by taste, and as pmoriarty says, to be double blind is a further challenge. You can however modify your protocol. Instead of chocolate buy some unfilled pill capsules (very cheap) and have a friend fill half with a pinch of salt, and half with a pinch of MSG. This friend makes a note of which caps are MSG, and without informing you or your SO which is…
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Would you drink a can of pop in which 30g of sugar were replaced with 30g of MSG?
Of course not. No one claimed it is comparable 1 to 1.
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> 2.5 grams of msg for a 50kg person MSG is slightly more dense than sugar, with a specific gravity of 1.6 and comes in a crystalline form that resembles sugar. 4 grams of sugar is about a teaspoon, and the same can be expected of MSG. They can easily dump half a teaspoon of the stuff into your soup or sauce in a restaurant, treating it like salt or sugar. This amazing paper is valuable not just for its work on rats,…
If it truly is a settled question that MSG causes headaches in humans , when the MSG is ingested (not injected ) in amounts humans normally eat, then it should be easy to find studies in reputable journals to this effect. Do you have a link to such studies? The injection/ingestion distinction is important, because when one ingests something, the entire quantity is not instantly dumped in to the bloodstream as it is w…
> Do you have a link to such studies?
This paper has a bunch of these types of references; for that alone it's useful. See section 2.4.
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> 2.5 grams of msg for a 50kg person MSG is slightly more dense than sugar, with a specific gravity of 1.6 and comes in a crystalline form that resembles sugar. 4 grams of sugar is about a teaspoon, and the same can be expected of MSG. They can easily dump half a teaspoon of the stuff into your soup or sauce in a restaurant, treating it like salt or sugar. This amazing paper is valuable not just for its work on rats,…
If it truly is a settled question that MSG causes headaches in humans , when the MSG is ingested (not injected ) in amounts humans normally eat, then it should be easy to find studies in reputable journals to this effect. Do you have a link to such studies? The injection/ingestion distinction is important, because when one ingests something, the entire quantity is not instantly dumped in to the bloodstream as it is w…
And nobody is claiming that the effects of MSG are not dose-dependent; that there is no consumption threshold below which sufferers feel no ill effects. Those who believe that any amount of MSG, no matter how miniscule, can cause them discomfort are deranged. If it were so, they would get these effects from all sorts of common foods that naturally contain glutamate.