Just use yeast extract and magically nobody will get headaches.
does calling MSG "yeast extract" work too?
How MSG Got a Bad Rap (2016)
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Re: How MSG Got a Bad Rap (2016)
#22Just use yeast extract and magically nobody will get headaches.
I saw a TV program which claimed to be disproving MSG allergies/reactions. The science in it was terrible, though - they served one of two meals to a bunch of people claiming allergies, one of which had artificial MSG added and the other, 'placebo' meal had a seaweed extract added which contained naturally occurring MSG. Then they proceeded to deride the people who showed allergic reactions to the "placebo" as fakers, despite it containing the exact chemical that they'd claimed a sensitivity to.
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#23Sliced tomatoes sprinkled with salt, pepper and msg on toast are very good. Although I imagine if you can get decent vine ripened heirloom tomatoes where you are the msg would probably be unnecessary.
> decent vine ripened heirloom tomatoes where you are If this is in America, not grown in your own garden, I'd love to hear where this is, because tomatoes in Seattle are absolutely terrible.
Try a non-Kroger/non-Safeway owned green grocer like Rainer Farmers Market, they generally have tastier veggies and fruit (along with stuff you don't get at chain stores) as that is all they deal in.
Limes are way cheaper at green grocers too, I swear its a Seattle thing where the large grocery stores know your only buying limes to go with your liquor, and thus charge obscene prices :c
Re: How MSG Got a Bad Rap (2016)
#24FWIW I've always called MSG "Makes Stuff Good," because it does just that... I realized it wasn't bad mostly because there was no seeming regularity to if I felt bad after eating foods with it. Eventually it dawned on me that perhaps overeating an abundance of oil in foods with it probably makes me feel like shit, and... yep, it was the oil (maybe others will have similar anecdotes).
Same here. It’s especially bad if you normally eat a pretty balanced diet with a reasonable amount of fat and sugar, and then have anything from an American-Chinese meal or a fast food burger and fries. I can pretty much set a clock by the 3 hours until I um... well you get the picture. Maybe it’s not the same for everyone, but I suspect for people who don’t eat s ton of “high octane” food, a big meal of fat and sugar makes you feel a bit off at the very least.
MSG though? Love the stuff. It actually makes it easier to use less fat, sugar, and other things you want in moderation because it, as you say, makes stuff good.
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#25Just use yeast extract and magically nobody will get headaches.
Something similar is done to placate “intelligent free thinkers” who think nitrates and nitrites are the devil. If you go into a Whole Foods practically every cured meat is labeled “Uncured! Nitrate free!” If you follow the inevitable asterisk though, you see the the caveat “Except those derived from natural sources, such as celery juice.”
facepalm
Just... eat less bacon, and don’t kid yourself that it somehow matters how the nitrates got there.
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#26I've isolated MSG as a cause of sinus headaches for me, along with a handful of other foods. It is in some flavored chips, and the first few times when going back and trying to figure out what caused my headache I was surprised to see it in the ingredient list since it has such a stigma. I also run into it at kbbq places mixed in with the salt. Not saying it is bad for everyone, but it is a consistent issue for me.
Not sure you've "proven" it's MSG though. Warm up some chocolate cubes, sprinkle msg and sandwich the cubes so it's in the middle. Then ask an SO to randomize and give you chocolate with or without msg every few days without telling you and note when you get headaches. My initial guess is that doing this 6-9 times you should get sufficient signal (if it's indeed true that MSG absolutely gives you headaches Everytime…
Just to be clear: to be double-blind, both of you would need to not know which cubes are which until after the experiment.
If the experimenter knows which are which and the subject doesn't, it's only single-blind. The disadvantage of this is that the experimenter might inadvertently reveal some clue to the subject as to which is which. That would make the experiment's conclusions more suspect than double-blind.
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#27I grew up eating foods with MSG. I'm usually aware of it. It's one of cooks' favorite abused ingredients. Eating a lot of MSG is bad, just like eating a lot of anything, sugar, salt.
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#28I grew up eating foods with MSG. I'm usually aware of it. It's one of cooks' favorite abused ingredients. Eating a lot of MSG is bad, just like eating a lot of anything, sugar, salt.
Would you drink a can of pop in which 30g of sugar were replaced with 30g of MSG?
Re: How MSG Got a Bad Rap (2016)
#29I've isolated MSG as a cause of sinus headaches for me, along with a handful of other foods. It is in some flavored chips, and the first few times when going back and trying to figure out what caused my headache I was surprised to see it in the ingredient list since it has such a stigma. I also run into it at kbbq places mixed in with the salt. Not saying it is bad for everyone, but it is a consistent issue for me.
Not sure you've "proven" it's MSG though. Warm up some chocolate cubes, sprinkle msg and sandwich the cubes so it's in the middle. Then ask an SO to randomize and give you chocolate with or without msg every few days without telling you and note when you get headaches. My initial guess is that doing this 6-9 times you should get sufficient signal (if it's indeed true that MSG absolutely gives you headaches Everytime…
You’d need to administer it in such a way that you can’t detect it by taste, and as pmoriarty says, to be double blind is a further challenge. You can however modify your protocol. Instead of chocolate buy some unfilled pill capsules (very cheap) and have a friend fill half with a pinch of salt, and half with a pinch of MSG. This friend makes a note of which caps are MSG, and without informing you or your SO which is which. The friend can simply assign each cap a day, and keep the key to which day is MSG in a notebook and be revealed later. From there, follow your protocol. It’s now double-blind, and you won’t taste what it is you’re taking and have some subconscious reaction.
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#30I grew up eating foods with MSG. I'm usually aware of it. It's one of cooks' favorite abused ingredients. Eating a lot of MSG is bad, just like eating a lot of anything, sugar, salt.
Would you drink a can of pop in which 30g of sugar were replaced with 30g of MSG?
Of course not. No one claimed it is comparable 1 to 1.