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Facebook Loses Top Executives, Including Chris Cox

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Significant portions of NYT's reporting have been highly misleading, to the extent that it's difficult to conclude it wasn't intentional. "Facebook allowed Microsoft’s Bing search engine to see the names of virtually all Facebook users’ friends without consent, the records show, and gave Netflix and Spotify the ability to read Facebook users’ private messages." [0] Netflix and Spotify have Messenger plugins that allo…

I'm confused. Netflix and Spotify did have the ability to read anyone's private messages. That's what they reported, and as far as I know none of the involved parties disputed that. The point isn't that somebody at Spotify was sitting there reading everyone's messages. The point is that they could have been doing that, and Facebook had nothing in place to know if they were doing that, and none of the users sharing a…

If you read up on FBs response, it's clear that only people who signed into those sites with Facebook would have given Netflix and spotify access to PMs. The user would have to agree to a permission dialog at least before the companies would have access.

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> ... then neither should the hate be justified? The hate is because they collect so much data, and share and sell it so carelessly. Google collects at least as much data, for sure. But as far as I know, they just monetize it through their ad services, and don't actually provide it to others.

Facebook doesn't sell data either. They monetize it just the same as google

That has been shown over a dozen times to be false.

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I feel comparing big tobacco to a service that lets you talk with your friends and keep a timeline of your life is a bit disproportionate.

Most of my friends that still smoke will straight up tell you the only reason they do it is for the social interactions that happen while smoking. I don't think it's that different.

>I don't think it's that different.

Regulating tobacco requires regulating the sale of a substance. Regulating facebook requires regulating speech (that is what advertising and a like button are) that happens to incite an emotional response. I'm very uncomfortable with regulating that.

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This is such a stupid argument. If 5 people do something that the 6th person doesn't want to ..doesn't mean the onus is on the 5 to stop doing it.

So just hope you will never be the one against the five when five people want to give you a beating...

Yes exaggerate the claim to be completely different from the real situation. If you think Facebook has it's demerits then be consistent and say the same about all of the Internet. Because your Grandparents aren't on HN, HN should be banned as well.

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Have you ever looked at what exactly those facebook login buttons load? I don't feel safe browsing sites with facebook integration anymore unless I'm running uMatrix or am in a container.

Does uBlock stop Facebook tracking? Or is there such a thing as Faceblock?

uMatrix plus the firefox facebook container plugin goes a long way...

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Does uBlock stop Facebook tracking? Or is there such a thing as Faceblock?

uMatrix plus the firefox facebook container plugin goes a long way...

Facebook container! I didn't even know that existed. Thanks!

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I used to be a fan of Facebook, but I was never obsessed with it. I even used to work there. I'm over it. It's useful for groups, some of the ads really are useful, it's nice to sometimes keep up with people that are far away, but the news feed has had done way more harm than good for our society, including my own life. After the 2016 Election, Facebook posts lead to so much drama in my family that certain "branches"…

>> The only reason I want it to succeed is because I own stock from when I worked there. I know the feeling as I HAD the same situation with amazon. The problem with such thinking is that yes you'll make some money off of it by enhancing human misery but when I sell the stock I will still be a human being. Fortunately, when you are not a part of the company there is a easy justification to sell, its that you are no l…

>> The problem with such thinking is that yes you'll make some money off of it by enhancing human misery but when I sell the stock I will still be a human being.

care to elaborate how amazon "enchances human misery"?

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Interesting. The article seems to emphasize that the conflict was over merging the messaging apps (Messenger, Instagram, WhatsApp).

What are the upsides and downsides of merging the messaging apps? I wonder if there's any way that could turn out to be a good thing.

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My wife has been doing taxes for a few people at Facebook (including engineers and PMs) -- many of them make an absurd amount of money. (>$800k / year)

I'm not sure if it's a fiduciary duty of an accountant not to disclose this kind of stuff, but it should be.

It's no different than with an ER doctor. They can say "some idiot wearing a McDonalds uniform came in with a bottle stuck in his ass" but they cannot say "John Smith came in with a bottle stuck up his ass."

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My wife has been doing taxes for a few people at Facebook (including engineers and PMs) -- many of them make an absurd amount of money. (>$800k / year)

That's great for the ones that make that much, but this kind of information is what's causing Bay Area housing and rent prices to sky-rocket. I have worked with multiple engineers in two large corps and most people make anywhere between 100k and 200k.

So we should all just hide our salaries for the sake of the housing and rent prices?
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