Huawei isn't trustworthy 5G partner, German spy agency says

Post by cronix » Fri, Mar 15, 2019, 1:01 PM UTC

onetimemanytime wrote: post #27

deugtniet wrote: post #14

I think there is one reason why western governments are opposed to Huawei systems in their communications networks. Western governments have historically had more trust in the US being a partner they can rely on, which is not the case (yet) for the Chinese. All governments spy on each other, and they do whatever is necessary for their spying needs, the US, European nations as well as the Chinese. And I bet this inclu…

More or less USA and Germany both want democracy, albeit with their local flavor. Free trade, human rights etc. If US spies (and gets its way), Germany might get their execs jailed for corruption or might lose a bid for, say, airplane engines. If China / Russia spy and get their way...we know what would happen.

Post by ElBarto » Fri, Mar 15, 2019, 1:07 PM UTC

jamesrcole wrote: post #29

martin_a wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don't understand the downvotes, this is what this is all about. It's not about Huawei being more or less trustworthy than the others, it's just about the US (three-letter agencies) "not liking" Huawei.

That comment is presumably a reference to something, but it's completely meaningless to someone (like me) who doesn't know that reference. They could have made the same point in a way that more people could understand.

Post by ElBarto » Fri, Mar 15, 2019, 1:12 PM UTC

jamesrcole wrote: post #34

ElBarto wrote: post #33

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My comment was crystal clear. It is as plain a reference to American influence as can be, nothing more.

It is literally meaningless to me. I have no idea what it is trying to convey.

Post by kamarg » Fri, Mar 15, 2019, 1:21 PM UTC

_trampeltier wrote: post #22

guitarbill wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"trusted" is a very optimistic way of putting it. but better the devil you know (e.g. Cisco/NSA) than the devil you don't.

That's very true. But also today all telco company's are really private company's and so the government can't tell them so easy buy this because we like to spy our own people.

Post by SEJeff » Fri, Mar 15, 2019, 1:25 PM UTC

frotak wrote: post #24

deugtniet wrote: post #14

I think there is one reason why western governments are opposed to Huawei systems in their communications networks. Western governments have historically had more trust in the US being a partner they can rely on, which is not the case (yet) for the Chinese. All governments spy on each other, and they do whatever is necessary for their spying needs, the US, European nations as well as the Chinese. And I bet this inclu…

Western governments have historically been allied with and have had intelligence sharing and cooperation arrangements with the U.S. There is a general alignment of Western intelligence agencies as a cooperative group against the antagonism of China (and Russia, NK, etc) It isn't just "everybody spies" - it's "we are actively engaged in an adversarial relationship together against this other group"