How Discord Went Mainstream • Hacker News Board

Re: How Discord Went Mainstream

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Post by scrollaway » Fri, Mar 15, 2019, 12:44 AM UTC

h1d wrote: post #48

scrollaway wrote: post #38

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Even though I use it a lot for 1 on 1 convos it's definitely not eating that lunch (yet). And imo it won't as long as it remains less reliable for notifications and doesn't have things like last-online, quote replies and read receipts like messenger and WhatsApp.

I don't understand why read reciepts are important. People will respond when they feel like whether it says read or not. Just makes it more cumbersome to get around it when you're too busy to respond.

Read receipts being there simplify 1-on-1 conversations a lot. Nobody wants to admit it because they don't want to "sound creepy", but most people do use them to know whether or not the other party has read/received the message.

It avoids the whole "hey, did you get my text" thing and there's several social situations where knowing whether the other person has read your message (regardless of reply) is useful, so you don't end up calling them to do exactly that.

It's like quote replies, emoji, etc… none of these things are essential to 1-on-1 comm, but if there's a platform that has these features, it'll most likely win out over others.

Re: How Discord Went Mainstream

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Post by h1d » Fri, Mar 15, 2019, 2:44 AM UTC

scrollaway wrote: post #151

h1d wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't understand why read reciepts are important. People will respond when they feel like whether it says read or not. Just makes it more cumbersome to get around it when you're too busy to respond.

Read receipts being there simplify 1-on-1 conversations a lot. Nobody wants to admit it because they don't want to "sound creepy", but most people do use them to know whether or not the other party has read/received the message. It avoids the whole "hey, did you get my text" thing and there's several social situations where knowing whether the other person has read your message (regardless of reply) is useful, so you…

Problem is, it's not reliable.

I might accidentally tap on notification and make it read when I'm eating but don't actually want to read it then or if the sender keeps bugging to read it when I know the message had arrived but want to read it later instead, it's not helping the conversation.

Re: How Discord Went Mainstream

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Post by dralley » Fri, Mar 15, 2019, 4:13 AM UTC

sciurus wrote: post #50

ngrilly wrote: post #28

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I agree that Telegram is primarily a messaging app like WhatsApp or Messenger. But its group feature has become really powerful, and can be used as an alternative to IRC (except for the fact that a "group" can't be divided in multiple channels). Some Mozilla groups have been using Telegram for some time: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Telegram

I think part of the nature of Mozilla is that we end up using everything. I wouldn't be surprised if there are some groups using Discord, too. My team and related ones are still mostly on IRC. Officially, as employees we're all supposed to be using Slack...

Same thing at Red Hat. Most of engineering runs off IRC, most of consulting runs off of Rocket.chat, I hear sales and marketing uses slack, and the "official" company solution is Gchat.

And a half dozen other little enclaves.

Re: How Discord Went Mainstream

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Post by hemicepha » Fri, Mar 15, 2019, 10:51 AM UTC

MivLives wrote: post #70

neilv wrote: post #44

Does anyone know what dotcom partnerships and individual/influencer affiliate programs Discord has done? For a while, I saw many subreddit mods pushing Discord in side bars and stickied posts, often with language that suggested it was an official Reddit counterpart to the sub. I supposed it could be that Reddit management was choosing to siphon off its own user base and influence to Discord. But my suspicion was that…

There's an influencer program but it's more aimed at Lan parties and other events of that nature. I suspect that the reason you see so many Discords for subreddits is it's free, and easy. I recall few subs having IRCs which the only other option that really compared, probably because of the barrier to entry for both the user and the admin. Reddit did launch their own chat feature. No idea if anyone uses it, I sure as…

But the reddit chat launched when a Discord channel was already established in all the major communities. And they tried to push it too fast, when it wasn't ready to production, like their official android/ios app.

Re: How Discord Went Mainstream

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Post by yannovitch » Mon, Mar 18, 2019, 9:01 AM UTC

I honestly don't understand why, especially on Hacker news, we do not push much more for privacy-oriented solutions. Moreover, with Matrix/Riot, or with XMPP/Conversations, viable alternatives exist, and if we all would put the energy to make these softwares better rather than putting it into proprietary solutions like the one described here, the open alternatives would already be much better than the proprietary ones!

Sure, as I've read in this thread, Discord is intended for the same kind of discussions that would happen in a public space, or in a group, not for the "truly private discussions",so "no need for all the privacy features "... except you do, precisely for these reasons!

I mean, Discord is privately-owned, a public space by its verynature is not. If I'm talking about anything beyond how nice is the weather, such as my political thoughts, or what I love, I don't want anybody (but possibly me) to be able to make a profit through it!