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How Discord Went Mainstream

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Re: How Discord Went Mainstream

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Here are a few things that make Discord nicer than IRC for ordinary (non-voice) chat: 1. You can start a new server right in the client by clicking a button. 2. Logs are saved server-side and synced across all your clients (phone, PC, etc). 3. You can upload images and videos to be hosted by Discord's servers. Media and links appear inline in the chat log. 4. No strange rituals involving NickServ or ChanServ. 5. Mobi…

6. You don't need to publicize your IP address by default.

IPs have been hidden on most IRC servers for years now.

Re: How Discord Went Mainstream

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One thing that really irritates me about Discord is that it has really crappy low-contrast dark & light themes. And it's not theme-able at all. At least slack's default light theme is high contrast and also slack is theme-able.

Contrast and readability is so 2013. Get used to modern perfect design and stop living in the stone age!!1!1!

Re: How Discord Went Mainstream

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I was a huge Discord fan, but now stopped using it for several reasons. - I can't mute some channels completely. I have raised bug reports, tried all the various options, researched everything I could find in Google about this issue. Bottom line is that "mute" is taken by Discord to be "only mute, unless I think you need to hear this", with no way to fully mute a channel. - I only use Discord in browser and it now ha…

Why is it everyone outside of programmers (and even then) always picks chat services with the worst client software available?

IRC had issues but at least the clients were decent.

Re: How Discord Went Mainstream

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My group of friends migrated from Messenger to Discord a few days ago, we are very pleased. Here's a list of what I love the most:

* When a friend arrived in the evening and the others had been talking about random things all day long, the friend was often submerged by the amount of fluff to read. Discord solves this in two ways: 1) the different channels allow us to keep discussions tidy, we have a channel for random discussion, one for our evening plans, one for future holidays, one for music... 2) we can pin (not sure of the name in English) important messages, so the friends arriving later only have to read those.

* The desktop application feels light-weight and fast, even on my weak chromebook. Compared to the memory hog that was Messenger in the browser, it's very pleasant.

* Many fun functionalities such as custom emojis. The emoji panel that opens when you type a colon makes it easier to find the reaction you want to send. I'm aware many on HN don't see the point of emojis, but I find them really fun and useful.

* Bots. Good luck having a bot in a Messenger discussion, with Discord it's trivial.

* The audio discussions are very easy to use and efficient. I love the push to talk mode.

* Muting is fine-grained. You can mute one channel, an entire server,...

* The reactions system makes it trivial to very spontaneously start a little poll. "Where do you guys want to eat? [Letter A emoji] restaurant x [Letter B emoji] restaurant y", and then you react to your own message with both emojis. Your friends just have to click one of the reactions to add theirs, so the little numbers next to each reaction act like a poll counter.

* You can edit your own messages, with no time limit AFAIK. Very convenient, especially with the up arrow which automatically edits your last message.

* Roles are precise and easy to use. We have a role for the core group of friends, with our private channels.

A few drawbacks :

* No quote responses, like Whatsapp has for example

* No attachments larger than 8 MB, which makes it impossible to send even a small video you've shot with your recent phone (unless you decrease the film resolution in your phone's settings I guess)

* I've had a few issues with the Android client, such as receiving a notification for a message, opening the app and the message isn't there. No way to force a refresh, so I have to kill the app and open it again. Might have been caused by battery saving mode, not sure.

* Accessing private messages is not very intuitive. Why do you have to go to the main screen first? I don't have many servers, so I'd like to be able to add my closest friends in the server list on the left of the screen, to access our discussions in one click or press.

* Some clever things are part of the client instead of the server, which would be fine if it were consistent between clients, which it's not. I'm thinking of the +:reaction_here: shortcut to quickly add a reaction to the last message in the discussion. It doesn't work with the Android client.

Re: How Discord Went Mainstream

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My group of friends migrated from Messenger to Discord a few days ago, we are very pleased. Here's a list of what I love the most: * When a friend arrived in the evening and the others had been talking about random things all day long, the friend was often submerged by the amount of fluff to read. Discord solves this in two ways: 1) the different channels allow us to keep discussions tidy, we have a channel for rando…

Nice! What are the advantages you see with Discord over Slack for the same purpose (if any)? I figured Slack's been around longer and offers most of these things so I was curious what makes people use Discord over it.

FWIW I use both happily.

Re: How Discord Went Mainstream

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One thing that really irritates me about Discord is that it has really crappy low-contrast dark & light themes. And it's not theme-able at all. At least slack's default light theme is high contrast and also slack is theme-able.

I use the browser version and the stylus browser extension to set the font to Roboto and make the text actually pass the chrome inspectors accessibility guidelines

Re: How Discord Went Mainstream

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I think Discord is slowing eating away all other form of online communication as it can be used for such a variety of situations and their API makes it very customizable.

The main issue I see is the culture. Discord's community has quite an opposite culture as Slack (free time vs work time) for instance. Being able to have multiple Discord handles could solve that.

Re: How Discord Went Mainstream

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I think Discord is slowing eating away all other form of online communication as it can be used for such a variety of situations and their API makes it very customizable. The main issue I see is the culture. Discord's community has quite an opposite culture as Slack (free time vs work time) for instance. Being able to have multiple Discord handles could solve that.

Even though I use it a lot for 1 on 1 convos it's definitely not eating that lunch (yet). And imo it won't as long as it remains less reliable for notifications and doesn't have things like last-online, quote replies and read receipts like messenger and WhatsApp.

Re: How Discord Went Mainstream

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maybe im just getting old but i cant really understand the runaway success of discord, it seems awfully similar to IRC to me

not saying that in a negative way, and I agree that for someone who understands IRC, IRC is great! But this comment is very similar to the infamous rsync comment on the Dropbox original Show HN post. Most people don't know IRC, are put off by it's raw (or lack of) design, etc. It's much easier to sell something like slack/discord than IRC. I remember having so many engineers fighting against HipChat being too slow, a…

IRC is great precisely because it filters out people you don’t want to talk to - such as HR.

Re: How Discord Went Mainstream

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I was a huge Discord fan, but now stopped using it for several reasons. - I can't mute some channels completely. I have raised bug reports, tried all the various options, researched everything I could find in Google about this issue. Bottom line is that "mute" is taken by Discord to be "only mute, unless I think you need to hear this", with no way to fully mute a channel. - I only use Discord in browser and it now ha…

Why is it everyone outside of programmers (and even then) always picks chat services with the worst client software available? IRC had issues but at least the clients were decent.

Well, the alternative at the time was using Skype.
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