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Elon Musk Tried to Destroy a Tesla Whistleblower

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Re: Elon Musk Tried to Destroy a Tesla Whistleblower

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I usually like Bloomberg, it's one of my favorite news sources but this article seems way off. They begin by talking about Martin Tripp's story (without any real details of what exactly happened), then they move to some random security guard with claims of sex and drugs in the factory, then they jump back to Tripp's story again and it takes a while for the article to get to the real point of Tripp's story which is: >…

> So he actually leaked information. Well, that's what a whistleblower does, isn't it? How would a whistleblower reveal that a company is doing questionable things without leaking information?

Take it to law enforcement.

Re: Elon Musk Tried to Destroy a Tesla Whistleblower

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He is not a whistleblower. Shame on Bloomberg for tainting the word. And he destryoed himself, any company would have thrown the book at any employee who did what he did.

He purposely leaked negative and false information of no material consequence to Linet Lopez, one of the top FUD reporters on Tesla at the time. Look up her articles over 2014 - 2017. Her full time job at the time was to trash the Tesla brand.

The "I'm not smart enough to sabotage assembly systems" remark was also proven false. His github and stackoverflow accounts were found and show his as a capable coder who would have had no trouble at all modifying the production systems he sabotaged.

He very quickly deleted both as soon as this came but the posts still exist today.

His trial is ongoing:

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/7244147/tesla-inc-v-tri...

I suspect this article will not age well. Either way it will serve its purpose as a hit piece before Model Y announcement.

Re: Elon Musk Tried to Destroy a Tesla Whistleblower

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Which doesn't mean anything really. If you have founded the company and own it, you can be CTO and delegate all the real engineering / research work.

Even Tom Mueller, propulsion engineer & co-founder of SpaceX, publicly acknowledges that Musk is heavily involved in key engineering decisions. I get that Musk gets a large amount of hate these days, but at least find something material to criticize. "He's not even an engineer" isn't just an irrelevant argument, it's also wrong. (Except in the "certified engineer" sense, which I don't think anyone is claiming).

Yeah, but is Tom Mueller, whose boss is Elon Musk, really going to publicly state anything else?

Re: Elon Musk Tried to Destroy a Tesla Whistleblower

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There might not be much in the way of proof, but it's an interesting story. Tesla calls police, says Tripp has threatened to shoot up place. Police investigate, say "no threat". Tesla says, "Hey, hold a press conference about it anyway!", sheriff declines, says "Can I speak to the person who says he called in a threat?". Tesla declines to make any witnesses available (which, huh? How can a company 'decline' to make a…

If the person who called in the anonymous threat declines to come forward its hardly up to Tesla to disclose their identity.

Huh?

No. For one, it wasn't described as an anonymous threat. Tesla reported to the police that they'd received a threat from Tripp. The police said "can we speak to the person who received it?", and Tesla said "Uh, no".

But then expected the police to hold press conference to talk about how Tripp is a violent, dangerous menace.

Re: Elon Musk Tried to Destroy a Tesla Whistleblower

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To Antinoro, one of the strangest parts of the situation was that after he told the company the threat was false, it asked him to put out a press release hyping it. He declined, but Tesla publicized the incident anyway. Antinoro says he’s told his force not to bother investigating crimes at the Gigafactory unless Tesla starts cooperating. Big business, he’s decided, is its own strange world. “Standard Oil was probabl…

Umm... shouldn't the sheriff be fired for this? Investigating crimes is his job, corporate recalcitrance is not an excuse for not trying to protect that corporation's employees.

There was no crime committed. He investigated the call and found that Tesla was lying. They refused to cooperate on it, so its done.

If you lie to the cops, they know you are lying, and you refuse to work with them, why would they investigate a crime that didn't occur?

What do you want them to do, arrest the guy on hearsay?

Re: Elon Musk Tried to Destroy a Tesla Whistleblower

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"I think his heart's in the right place too." Trying to ruin someone's life is having your heart in the right place?

ahem...apart from that...I was referring to the higher-purpose of accelerating the much-needed transition to electric vehicles - it's kind of obvious that was my meaning from the context - I'm saying, yes this is shitty, but look at the bigger picture.

There's absolutely nothing that Elon Musk has done for the electric car market to excuse this kind of behavior. He could've changed the market just the same without acting this way.

Re: Elon Musk Tried to Destroy a Tesla Whistleblower

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I can conclusively say that I will never be giving Tesla any of my money. I can grant credit where credit is due, Tesla did show the world and the market that an electric vehicle can have appeal and doesn't have to look like a glorified golf cart. But I'm not going to reward them for the appalling behavior of their CEO and/or people acting at his direction in other areas.

He's really gone off the deep end and I'm wondering if this isn't a little bit of mental illness. I'm WAY less bullish on Tesla than I was a year ago. His behavior is insane. The value of the Tesla just isn't there either and it COULD be but the over-promising and under-delivering needs to end.

I imagine running multiple businesses and working crazy hours isn't helping.

Re: Elon Musk Tried to Destroy a Tesla Whistleblower

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"Later that day, Tripp heard from the sheriff’s department in Storey County, Nev. Tesla’s security department had passed a tip to police. An anonymous caller had contacted the company to say Tripp was planning a mass shooting at the Gigafactory." Think of how this could have played out under different circumstances. We've already had numerous "swatting" incidents where innocent bystanders were hurt or killed. The mor…

Sounds very Google'y. Seeks out law enforcement over every little thing (they've done) like a bunch of passive-aggressive cowardly nerds. They shit, accuse, and are then magically "scared for their lives."

Re: Elon Musk Tried to Destroy a Tesla Whistleblower

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We should really learn not to bother. I see there's a flood of downvotes/flagging on any comment presenting Musk in a bad light in any way. Evidence be damned.

A site like this is going to be full of tech proselytes who still live and breathe the devine tech CEO BS from the last decade. It’s to be expected.

HN is divided on this divisive topic just like it's divided on most other divisive topics. What's more annoying about this one is how much groundless metacommentary it gets.
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