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> Who should he have leaked it to? The appropriate regulatory agency rather than the media. > Where should he have published it? Publishing internal documents is the last resort after everything else has failed.
What is wrong with publishing internal documents as the first step exactly?
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I don’t even know what to say to the first sentence in your comment.
Just admit it? Being a "sports car" doesn't make it any better, in the same way a Ferrari is not better than a Lexus.
I doubt regular manufacturers would have begun releasing real EV cars without their pressure.
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Umm... shouldn't the sheriff be fired for this? Investigating crimes is his job, corporate recalcitrance is not an excuse for not trying to protect that corporation's employees.
Like a lot of things, its a matter of resource allocation. Asking a sheriff to do a press release that's a lie lessens the credibility of the source. Having a company ask you to use your resources to "investigating crimes at the Gigafactory" without Tesla's honest cooperation is a waste of those resources and could get someone else killed while his people chase their tails. It is an extremely reasonable judgement cal…
Publicly announcing that no crimes at the Gigafactory will be investigated seems like dereliction of duty and abandoning the tax paying workers of Tesla to a potentially unsafe environment.
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It's not like Tesla is novel or unique or better at electric cars. Conventional car companies have worked on electric cars, and have their own models for decades. Tesla's unique proposition was about building an electric supercar (and even that is not working very well, profits wise). They'll hardly be the one's replacing the mass oil and diesel cars with electric models...
Have you ever seen a Tesla?
"Later that day, Tripp heard from the sheriff’s department in Storey County, Nev. Tesla’s security department had passed a tip to police. An anonymous caller had contacted the company to say Tripp was planning a mass shooting at the Gigafactory." Think of how this could have played out under different circumstances. We've already had numerous "swatting" incidents where innocent bystanders were hurt or killed. The mor…
I can grant credit where credit is due, Tesla did show the world and the market that an electric vehicle can have appeal and doesn't have to look like a glorified golf cart.
But I'm not going to reward them for the appalling behavior of their CEO and/or people acting at his direction in other areas.
"Later that day, Tripp heard from the sheriff’s department in Storey County, Nev. Tesla’s security department had passed a tip to police. An anonymous caller had contacted the company to say Tripp was planning a mass shooting at the Gigafactory." Think of how this could have played out under different circumstances. We've already had numerous "swatting" incidents where innocent bystanders were hurt or killed. The mor…
Where is the proof? The Bloomberg story is as one sided as it gets. "An anonymous caller" == Elon Musk responsible?
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He literally designed his rocket and built multiple million/billion dollar tech companies.
I literally do not believe you. I'm not saying he's an unsuccessful business man. Hes literally not a rocket scientist. What kind of silly nonsense is that?
>He borrowed all of my college texts on rocket propulsion when we first started working together in 2001. We also hired as many of my colleagues in the rocket and spacecraft business that were willing to consult with him. ... I found out later that he was talking to a bunch of other people about rocket designs and collaborating on some spreadsheet level systems designs for launchers. Once our dealings with the Russians fell apart, he decided to build his own rocket and this was the genesis of SpaceX.
Additional info from Jim from a follow-up interview[2]:
>Cantrell ... loaned him some textbooks to study. The books were "Rocket Propulsion Elements," "Aerothermodynamics of Gas Turbine and Rocket Propulsion," "Fundamentals of Astrodynamics," and the "International Reference Guide to Space Launch Systems." He would quote passages verbatim from these books. He became very conversant in the material. ... Musk would absorb this information and then hold his own in conversations — and he didn't hold back.
Additionally, Ashlee Vance's biography [3] describes his day-to-day as "quite involved with rocket design" at SpaceX and goes into a lot of detail about spending time on the floor assisting SpaceX scientists with their designs.
Obviously any single person at a company the size of SpaceX doesn't individually design and build a rocket by themselves, but it's generally agreed upon that Elon is knowledgeable in rocket science and contributes many ideas to the designs.
[1] https://www.quora.com/How-did-Elon-Musk-learn-enough-about-r...
[2] https://www.businessinsider.com/how-elon-musk-learned-rocket...
[3] https://www.amazon.com/Elon-Musk-SpaceX-Fantastic-Future/dp/...
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Like a lot of things, its a matter of resource allocation. Asking a sheriff to do a press release that's a lie lessens the credibility of the source. Having a company ask you to use your resources to "investigating crimes at the Gigafactory" without Tesla's honest cooperation is a waste of those resources and could get someone else killed while his people chase their tails. It is an extremely reasonable judgement cal…
Not prioritizing the investigation of complaints filed by Tesla when they refuse to cooperate and not issuing press releases on command is commendable. Publicly announcing that no crimes at the Gigafactory will be investigated seems like dereliction of duty and abandoning the tax paying workers of Tesla to a potentially unsafe environment.
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Who should he have leaked it to? Where should he have published it?
I guess it depends on the intent of the whistle blower. Is there a Project Zero type of way to publish? Wikileaks? Why does it have to go to any gov't body first? If the information is leaked out, do the governing agencies have a responsibility to investigate based on the leaked information or only investigate the suspect for leaking? Paralysis by analysis can be applied here, so just publish and let the chips fall w…
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> Who should he have leaked it to? The appropriate regulatory agency rather than the media. > Where should he have published it? Publishing internal documents is the last resort after everything else has failed.
What is wrong with publishing internal documents as the first step exactly?
Moreover, "a company" doesn't do stuff, its employees do. If you're the employee, the first person whose job it is to keep the company from doing dumb stuff is you. And there is a process for that. If you're the one responsible for it, you fix it. If you're not, you alert the person who is, then their boss if that doesn't work and on up the chain to the government until it gets fixed. If that process works then the problem gets solved without there being anything to create a media storm over, and if that process would have worked but you decided to skip it then you're creating a media storm over nothing.