Earlier quoted context omitted.
If the money goes towards scholarships for the deserving but poor its a good trade. Less so if it ends up in the pockets of corrupt paper pushers.
And if I had to bet I would put money on the money not 'trickling down' as we would hope.
Bribes to Get into Yale and Stanford? What Else Is New?
41–50 of 157 posts
Re: Bribes to Get into Yale and Stanford? What Else Is New?
#42Earlier quoted context omitted.
That is why it stings for poor or working class Asians and non-Jewish Whites...you don't get the affirmative action or legacy leg up...
I could be wrong, but I don't think Jews get much of an affirmative action boost either.
Re: Bribes to Get into Yale and Stanford? What Else Is New?
#43Just reinforces my belief that an ivy league degree is much more an indicator of socioeconomic class than it is intelligence or aptitude.
Re: Bribes to Get into Yale and Stanford? What Else Is New?
#44Earlier quoted context omitted.
How about completely blind job admissions, school admissions, etc. No names, no race, no age, etc. Just raw test scores. Test them against problem solving skills objectively, etc.
Goodheart's law. Besides what employer wants to hire someone based just on their intelligence scores? If someone is an uncooperative egoist prick I don't think many companies will want to hire them no matter their test scores.
Re: Bribes to Get into Yale and Stanford? What Else Is New?
#45From the article: "It may be legal to pledge $2.5 million to Harvard just as your son is applying — which is what Jared Kushner’s father did for him — and illegal to bribe a coach to the tune of hundreds of thousands of dollars, but how much of a difference is there, really? Both elevate money over accomplishment."
How about completely blind job admissions, school admissions, etc. No names, no race, no age, etc. Just raw test scores. Test them against problem solving skills objectively, etc.
Re: Bribes to Get into Yale and Stanford? What Else Is New?
#46This is why, to me, the entire debate about affirmative action at elite colleges is a complete red herring. The amount of kids, regardless of race, who can be considered "deserving" of a spot has been reduced more so by legacy admissions and these bribes than by any effort of individual institutions to even out racial or gender demographics.
That is why it stings for poor or working class Asians and non-Jewish Whites...you don't get the affirmative action or legacy leg up...
Re: Bribes to Get into Yale and Stanford? What Else Is New?
#47My company foolishly donated data to Stanford for nearly a decade. We asked them for an 'in kind' license to OpenNLP and were basically completely rebuffed. They're taking in money hand over fist. We need to stop thinking of these as universities anymore. They're cash cows...
Re: Bribes to Get into Yale and Stanford? What Else Is New?
#48Earlier quoted context omitted.
Oi. What's with the antisemitism?
Uh...that wasn't antisemetic...when talking about Ivy league representation, Jews are disproportionately represented which is why I distinguished between "Jewish Whites" and Non-Jewish Whites...
The 1% are very disproportionately represented in the Ivy League, too.
Re: Bribes to Get into Yale and Stanford? What Else Is New?
#49Earlier quoted context omitted.
The first is for the benefit of all the other students in the form of reduced tuition grants, a new library, lab equipment etc. The other is for the benefit of the bribe taker. There are lots of situations that elevate X over accomplishment, but this seems like one with actual benefit on a large scale. That said, I hope they all get punished for it.
I dont think a monetary donation means a new lab or a library for all students to use that otherwise would have not been built. these universities have excess budget and easily afford to carry out new construction and procurement as planned regardless of donations. Im sure if the said parent had not donated the 2.5 million dollars, not a single thing would have been different for the students. not one.
Re: Bribes to Get into Yale and Stanford? What Else Is New?
#50Earlier quoted context omitted.
That is why it stings for poor or working class Asians and non-Jewish Whites...you don't get the affirmative action or legacy leg up...
I suspect you've never heard of the "Jewish Quota" that capped the number of Jews allowed in various schools: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_quota
It isn't an active policy of any of Ivy League schools anymore ..