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Re: Sway 1.0

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Post by kakarot »

malvosenior wrote: post #211
kakarot wrote: post #134

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I run Wayland on my hypervisor OS and pass through my NVIDIA GPU to a VM with proprietary drivers in order to take full advantage of my card.

Do you know of any blog posts that would discuss a setup like this? Sounds pretty interesting.

Alex Williamson has an excellent VFIO blog that discusses the basics of GPU passthru. [0]

I think the instructions are meant for Debian however and there are some differences in the commands you need to run. If you use a Redhat distro and/or you want some further optimization tips I'm also happy to work you through the process.

https://vfio.blogspot.com/2015/05/vfio-gpu-how-to-series-par...

Re: Sway 1.0

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Post by wink »

AnIdiotOnTheNet wrote: post #145
DCKing wrote: post #127

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With a tiling window manager, every window you open has cognitive overload. Which workspace, which location on screen, is it okay if other windows resize, or do I have it float even? Every tile you add affects the other tiles in some way - at the very least a new tile (e.g. on a new workspace) consumes space that cannot be taken by other tiles. The reward for this additional cognitive load is that every action is con…

What I've been thinking is, why can't we have both? Imagine just two changes: a workspace's mode can be switched between tiling and floating, and additional workspaces are just windows. Now you can have any combination of floating and tiling that makes sense to you. You could, for instance, set your desktop to tiling mode and open two new workspace windows, the switch one to floating and run your GUI desktop stuff on…

This is the mode how I run Windows with WinSplit Revolution.

It doesn't change anything by default, but with alt-keypad I move certain windows to the upper left, upper right, bottom right, bottom left and so most open applications have their exact position, but everything else is floating.

I guess I'd use a full blown tiling WM if there was one, though, I don't really see any downsides once you configured it to your preference. So bad for new machines, good for regular use. (for me).

Re: Sway 1.0

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Post by the_gipsy »

leadingthenet wrote: post #184
the_gipsy wrote: post #45

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Well macOS has tried and failed, with their mix of "spaces", fullscreen apps, and maximized windows. Edit: what I'm saying is they did try to do the fullscreen (and even tiled) modes.

> macOS has tried and failed I, along with many millions of people, are using spaces and fullscreen apps daily with no issue. I have used i3 and sway before, and I much prefer the macOS UX. To say that it has failed is sheer arrogance. On what do you base such a ridiculous claim?

I've never seen anybody use fullscreen-apps/spaces/maximized-windows smoothly, ever.

It's especially bad on multi-monitor.

  - New windows appear on unfocused monitor at random.
  - Can make shortcuts to spaces, but not the fullscreen-apps (which look like spaces to all other effects). There are apps to make shortcuts to apps, but this is useless if you have e.g. two terminals in fullscreen mode, it just targets one window at random.
  - Cannot deactivate the slow change-space aninmation.
  - Windows are grouped under same app in Alt-Tab list.
  - When fullscreen-app, some dialogs do overlay the app, some are hidden on some random space, and some forcefully move your active space. At random.
  - Plugging and unplugging monitors frequently wreaks havoc among the window disposition.

Re: Sway 1.0

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Post by Qub3d »

badosu wrote: post #232
cwyers wrote: post #66

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Probably, but given the relative levels of adoption of Nvidia graphics cards and Sway, I suspect that he's doing more to limit adoption of Sway than he is of encouraging Nvidia to change their behavior.

I would say it's the case in both accounts. Whereas before installing nvidia proprietary drivers was just a nuisance, now I am looking for alternative GPUs as I use Linux on all my machines.

I'm just using i3. Its a little "realpolitik", but I use an eGPU and AMD's lackluster, power-hungry options just don't compete, especially when I'm losing 10-15% performance to TB3 overhead.

I'd love for this situation to change, but until then, i'm on i3-gaps and happy.

Re: Sway 1.0

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Post by Sir_Cmpwn »

elagost wrote: post #230
ddevault wrote: post #4

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Thanks! I use Alpine Linux.

You've probably written about it before, but care to elaborate? Is alpine as a desktop in any way viable for regular users?

I don't know what "regular users" means. I write new Alpine packages often, you shouldn't expect everything to already be there - especially with respect to GUIs. If you're not prepared to do that (and you should be, imo), Alpine may not be for you. I love it, though, it's simple and efficient, and doesn't get in my way.

Re: Sway 1.0

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Post by elagost »

Sir_Cmpwn wrote: post #245
elagost wrote: post #230

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You've probably written about it before, but care to elaborate? Is alpine as a desktop in any way viable for regular users?

I don't know what "regular users" means. I write new Alpine packages often, you shouldn't expect everything to already be there - especially with respect to GUIs. If you're not prepared to do that (and you should be, imo), Alpine may not be for you. I love it, though, it's simple and efficient, and doesn't get in my way.

"Regular users" for me means someone who doesn't want to fuss too much with a desktop system; I use Fedora (or Debian until recently) because I want to spend my time administering my servers, not my desktop system that is the interface to those servers. "It Just Works"

If it comes highly recommended, though, I'll give it a shot. OpenRC really is a thing of beauty and that's the one thing I miss from Gentoo.

Re: Sway 1.0

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Post by malvosenior »

kakarot wrote: post #241
malvosenior wrote: post #211

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Do you know of any blog posts that would discuss a setup like this? Sounds pretty interesting.

Alex Williamson has an excellent VFIO blog that discusses the basics of GPU passthru. [0] I think the instructions are meant for Debian however and there are some differences in the commands you need to run. If you use a Redhat distro and/or you want some further optimization tips I'm also happy to work you through the process. https://vfio.blogspot.com/2015/05/vfio-gpu-how-to-series-par...

Awesome, thank you!

Re: Sway 1.0

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Post by jamesbvaughan »

DC-3 wrote: post #63

I have nothing to say, so by rights I shouldn't leave a comment at all - but I can't help but once again thank you for this superb software.

That's a great thing to say :)

And I'd like to second it: Sway has been great and I'm stoked for this release!

Re: Sway 1.0

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Post by Spearchucker »

majewsky wrote: post #188
Spearchucker wrote: post #173

Worked hard at Microsoft and at Nokia. Held senior positions at both and maybe loved what I was doing too much to burn out. That said I then took on some enterprise roles and the lax work ethic blew my mind. It was like a vacation. Eternal summer. I recommend it.

Wrong thread?

Yes. No idea how I managed that.

Re: Sway 1.0

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Post by ZeikJT »

mikenew wrote: post #147
reaperducer wrote: post #138

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Should, but doesn't. This is all there is: "Sway allows you to arrange your application windows logically, rather than spatially. Windows are arranged into a grid by default which maximizes the efficiency of your screen and can be quickly manipulated using only the keyboard." Sounds interesting. No screenshots, though. Just a big black box reading "No compatible source was found for this media." I guess it's trying t…

There's a short explanation and a very nice 2 minute video demonstrating how it works. I think expecting people to be able to view a webm video is pretty reasonable.

Reasonable? Maybe. But the web is not restricting anyone to one file format. Why not just add some fallbacks to be even more compatible?
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