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Nginx to Be Acquired by F5 Networks

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Re: Nginx to Be Acquired by F5 Networks

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Post by brightball »

dsl wrote: post #190
darksoul wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

According to the public statements, F5 is committing to maintain the current level of resources NGINX has allocated to their open source programs, to keep the same dev team involved, to keep licensing as it currently is, not change any of the repositories on Mercurial and GitHub and to keep the NGINX brand. Which only means that NGINX will get even better over time.

NGINX was already paywalling bug fixes once they launched Pro. proxy_pass for example will only resolve a hostname at the time the configuration is parsed, unless you use a convoluted variable hack. This was a serious issue requiring you to restart your fleet if a backend server changed IPs. The bug fix for this was implemented only in Pro and sold as "DNS for Service Discovery."

How’s Apache doing these days? Haven’t looked in a while

Re: Nginx to Be Acquired by F5 Networks

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Post by _wmd »

platform wrote: post #269

I wonder if Facebook's opensourcing of BPF [1] 4 months ago had negative affects on F5's competitive advantaages. BPF allows to run user code in kernel modules, so things like packet rewriting and traffic shaping are possible. [2] [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18337429 [2] https://facebookmicrosites.github.io/bpf/docs/bpf-docs#tools...

BPF is 12 years older than Facebook :)

People don't buy individual pieces of technology, they want packaged solutions that come with support. Tech almost matters less than good support

Re: Nginx to Be Acquired by F5 Networks

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Post by vishwajeetv »

AznHisoka wrote: post #174
blihp wrote: post #170

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Note that none of the successful large companies are actually open sourcing their 'secret sauce'. There is no open source version of Google's search engine, Facebook's social network etc. It's only supporting tools and infrastructure they release (i.e. commoditization of their complements or dependencies.) A product company open sourcing their core product is committing suicide on the product front. Sure, there will…

To expand on this, these companies are not open sourcing their data. Facebook no longer gives you access to the social graph. Google doesnt have an open API for their search results or search volume.

Providing an API doesn't mean open sourcing the data. Because the API provider can very well restrict who can use it, and how it is used, and throttle it.

Re: Nginx to Be Acquired by F5 Networks

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Post by late2part »

yingw787 wrote: post #50

So...what is the future of enterprise open source? Is there a future for enterprise open source? If you start a company and open source your core/clients, your product becomes part of AWS, and AWS runs you into the ground. If you mix in proprietary licenses to protect yourself, AWS forks your core, adds in open-source licensed clients, then runs you into the ground (and you lose open-source contributors/supporters as…

* If you start a company and open source your core/clients, your product becomes part of AWS, and AWS runs you into the ground. *

In the world I live in, far more commercially supported open source runs outside of AWS, then runs ON AWS, then AWS has copied and usurped.

Re: Nginx to Be Acquired by F5 Networks

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Post by late2part »

shereadsthenews wrote: post #255
davidopp__ wrote: post #250

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> it throws out all of the interesting parts of Borg This is not true. It throws out the Google-specific parts of Borg (like integration with Google's service discovery, load balancing, and monitoring systems) and improves a number of things compared to Borg. For a good reference on the evolution of Borg into Kubernetes, I recommend the recent Kubernetes Podcast interview with Brian Grant: https://kubernetespodcast.c…

Unfortunately we can't discuss the parts of Google's platform that aren't in Kubernetes on this forum. If we could, I think I could defend my statement reasonably well. But perhaps you just don't think that the pieces I would mention qualify as interesting.

oooh tell us more! or have a private conversation on your multicolored bike on the way to the cafe serving tri tip today!

Re: Nginx to Be Acquired by F5 Networks

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Post by Rapzid »

I was always under the impression nginx was keeping rather basic stuff(like downstream status) out of core so they could sell plus and that the community deserved a better defacto server.. Maybe this will be the catalyst?

Re: Nginx to Be Acquired by F5 Networks

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Post by atombender »

rayvy wrote: post #246
wskinner wrote: post #65

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My understanding is that Google has recently deviated from this strategy. The result of the strategy you mention is that the industry standardized on other companies' implementation of ideas that came from Google: Hadoop (MapReduce), HDFS (GFS), ZooKeeper (Chubby, and more. For examples of newer open source projects that see more active maintenance from Google, see Kubernetes and TensorFlow.

Gonna just chime in and mention Yahoo for Hadoop (yes I know Big Table was Google), and Zookeeper. Great tech started at Yahoo, but they didn’t (unlike today) make too much of a fuss/self-pat-on-the-back about it

Those projects were initiated by Yahoo, but the designs are taken directly from Google papers. Hadoop (HDFS and Map/Reduce) was based on the GFS and Map/Reduce papers. ZooKeeper was based on the Chubby paper.

Re: Nginx to Be Acquired by F5 Networks

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Post by soup10 »

late2part wrote: post #275
shereadsthenews wrote: post #255

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unfortunately we can't discuss the parts of Google's platform that aren't in Kubernetes on this forum. If we could, I think I could defend my statement reasonably well. But perhaps you just don't think that the pieces I would mention qualify as interesting.

oooh tell us more! or have a private conversation on your multicolored bike on the way to the cafe serving tri tip today!

its amazing how often employees show up here to shill their company

Re: Nginx to Be Acquired by F5 Networks

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Post by voltagex_ »

nathan_f77 wrote: post #223
sneak wrote: post #70

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Has the AGPL ever successfully held up in court?

Yes, Artifex sued Hancom over their use of Ghostscript [1]. (The article says GPL, but Ghostscript has an AGPL license.) The judge denied a motion to dismiss the claims, and they reached a settlement for an undisclosed amount. I don't think many developers are aware that Ghostscript has an AGPL license, and I've heard that the commercial license costs $25k per year. It's very easy to just `apt-get install ghostscript…

$25k seems a bit on the high end - https://ironpdf.com/licensing/

Also, it's 2019 - Artifex, it's OK, you can publish your prices (https://www.artifex.com/licensing/)

Re: Nginx to Be Acquired by F5 Networks

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Post by [deleted] »

late2part wrote: post #275
shereadsthenews wrote: post #255

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unfortunately we can't discuss the parts of Google's platform that aren't in Kubernetes on this forum. If we could, I think I could defend my statement reasonably well. But perhaps you just don't think that the pieces I would mention qualify as interesting.

oooh tell us more! or have a private conversation on your multicolored bike on the way to the cafe serving tri tip today!

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