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Re: Nginx to Be Acquired by F5 Networks

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Post by Gaelan »

admax88q wrote: post #60
yingw787 wrote: post #50

So...what is the future of enterprise open source? Is there a future for enterprise open source? If you start a company and open source your core/clients, your product becomes part of AWS, and AWS runs you into the ground. If you mix in proprietary licenses to protect yourself, AWS forks your core, adds in open-source licensed clients, then runs you into the ground (and you lose open-source contributors/supporters as…

You could AGPL and sell proprietary exceptions. Amazon won't touch AGPL code.

But will anyone else?

Re: Nginx to Be Acquired by F5 Networks

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Post by sneak »

c0l0 wrote: post #49

I guess that signals it's time for nginx users to check out possible alternatives - just in case, if things turn out for the worse. I can recommend having a look at https://varnish-cache.org/ - while its performance might not be 100% up to par with nginx in some (very, very high-end) scenarios, it has many other fortes that nginx (at least in its FOSS release version; I've never used nginx plus) just cannot match in…

The same nginx I was using yesterday, I have a license for tomorrow.

Re: Nginx to Be Acquired by F5 Networks

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Post by darksoul »

c0l0 wrote: post #49

I guess that signals it's time for nginx users to check out possible alternatives - just in case, if things turn out for the worse. I can recommend having a look at https://varnish-cache.org/ - while its performance might not be 100% up to par with nginx in some (very, very high-end) scenarios, it has many other fortes that nginx (at least in its FOSS release version; I've never used nginx plus) just cannot match in…

According to the public statements, F5 is committing to maintain the current level of resources NGINX has allocated to their open source programs, to keep the same dev team involved, to keep licensing as it currently is, not change any of the repositories on Mercurial and GitHub and to keep the NGINX brand.

Which only means that NGINX will get even better over time.

Re: Nginx to Be Acquired by F5 Networks

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Post by StudentStuff »

admax88q wrote: post #60
yingw787 wrote: post #50

So...what is the future of enterprise open source? Is there a future for enterprise open source? If you start a company and open source your core/clients, your product becomes part of AWS, and AWS runs you into the ground. If you mix in proprietary licenses to protect yourself, AWS forks your core, adds in open-source licensed clients, then runs you into the ground (and you lose open-source contributors/supporters as…

You could AGPL and sell proprietary exceptions. Amazon won't touch AGPL code.

Others are happy to provide AGPLv3 code as SaaS, look at MongoDB's issues. You can build a ton of tooling around said code to enhance performance, adding features and billing, all while not modifying the core AGPLv3 code and thus avoiding the need to contribute back. This is a scummy business practice, but technically legal.

Re: Nginx to Be Acquired by F5 Networks

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Post by [deleted] »

c0l0 wrote: post #49

I guess that signals it's time for nginx users to check out possible alternatives - just in case, if things turn out for the worse. I can recommend having a look at https://varnish-cache.org/ - while its performance might not be 100% up to par with nginx in some (very, very high-end) scenarios, it has many other fortes that nginx (at least in its FOSS release version; I've never used nginx plus) just cannot match in…

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Re: Nginx to Be Acquired by F5 Networks

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Post by ChikkaChiChi »

yingw787 wrote: post #50

So...what is the future of enterprise open source? Is there a future for enterprise open source? If you start a company and open source your core/clients, your product becomes part of AWS, and AWS runs you into the ground. If you mix in proprietary licenses to protect yourself, AWS forks your core, adds in open-source licensed clients, then runs you into the ground (and you lose open-source contributors/supporters as…

Support, certifications, and subscriptions all seem to work fine for a number of companies.

I don't think there is a future in open source enterprise software where trade secrets are hidden from the public.

Re: Nginx to Be Acquired by F5 Networks

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Post by omnimus »

PaulBGD_ wrote: post #41
s_kilk wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Throwing out a question to the room: if the worst happens and Nginx gets butchered, would it be so bad to go back to using Apache? I've never used it really, everything I've done has been Nginx, but is there some technical reason why Apache wouldn't be a fine fallback option for an open-source server?

The main reason I switched to nginx from apache years ago was due to configuration, which was much nicer from my side. If I was to switch away from nginx because something happened, I'd probably find something similar configuration and speed wise. Caddy looks nice.

https://caddyserver.com/products/licenses

i would end up paying twice as much for caddy as i do for server

Re: Nginx to Be Acquired by F5 Networks

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Post by EvangelicalPig »

darksoul wrote: post #73
c0l0 wrote: post #49

I guess that signals it's time for nginx users to check out possible alternatives - just in case, if things turn out for the worse. I can recommend having a look at https://varnish-cache.org/ - while its performance might not be 100% up to par with nginx in some (very, very high-end) scenarios, it has many other fortes that nginx (at least in its FOSS release version; I've never used nginx plus) just cannot match in…

According to the public statements, F5 is committing to maintain the current level of resources NGINX has allocated to their open source programs, to keep the same dev team involved, to keep licensing as it currently is, not change any of the repositories on Mercurial and GitHub and to keep the NGINX brand. Which only means that NGINX will get even better over time.

Hopefully if it declines we can have a MariaDB type fork take it's place.

Re: Nginx to Be Acquired by F5 Networks

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Post by LinuxBender »

clinta wrote: post #9

I'm nervous about what this means for the future of nginx's built in load balancing. That's been an important and rock-solid part of my infrastructure.

I would not be worried unless F5 have stated they are going to change licensing. Haproxy have a commercial version of their software, including appliances. Several other open source projects have commercially supported versions.

NGinx has had a commercial version of their code for a long time. Now it will be under new management. I could see the branding for the commercial version of nginx change.

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