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Nginx to Be Acquired by F5 Networks
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Re: Nginx to Be Acquired by F5 Networks
#262Earlier quoted context omitted.
But K8s is not a development of Google software. It is developed specifically for the public, it throws out all of the interesting parts of Borg, and Google themselves don't use it, or barely do. As for that other stuff it seems to have worked out fine for Google: they describe obsolete technologies and the outside world develops hideous analogs of those and uses them for decades. Hadoop for example is just an unbeli…
Google offers their most recent infrastructure as a service in GCP, e.g. Cloud Dataflow, and it hasn't exactly taken the world by storm. Industry standards matter, even if they are inferior implementations; the differential is just not that big.
Dataflow is based on oss Apache airflow. I don’t know how well it’s doing in the wild but every IT admin I’ve worked with are super excited to use it.
Re: Nginx to Be Acquired by F5 Networks
#263Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't think Facebook has any "secret sauce". The integration and scale is certainly impressive, but there's no part of the functionality which is at all mysterious to me. Unlike, say, Google Search, everything on Facebook appears pretty straightforward. They did open-source HHVM, React, GraphQL, and Cassandra, which are the closest things I can see to a secret sauce.
Their ad-targeting infrastructure likely has some secret subtleties to it.
Meh, not really. Cookies all the way down.
Re: Nginx to Be Acquired by F5 Networks
#264Man I didnt even realize F5 was still relevant...
I recall my first two F5 box purchases...
Tore it apart with the engineer installing it for us at Decide.com in ~1999 and each box was ~$35,000
After asking about and being shown what the box was, a low end machine with a custom linux distro with a custom LB logic that was complex... I was really turned off by their implementation....
Dont get me wrong, it was revolutionary as a product and what not - but from an engineer, I was kicking myself as to how much they could charge for the thing....
Now ELBs are "free" for same functionality in cloud...
So what is F5 doing - and Who is buying them, aside from governments? (I am not hating on them - trying to understand them)
Re: Nginx to Be Acquired by F5 Networks
#265Earlier quoted context omitted.
haproxy is amazingly functional and has done a fine job of evolving over the years. At a particular $DEFUNCTCLOUDVENDOR we implemented a haproxy based ELB-ish solution with home grown control logic to replace a F5 installation whos configuration size grew unwieldy (the F5 config parser was falling over in their LBs) while we were nowhere near the F5's touted connection/throughput numbers. F5 wasn't really willing to…
18 months ago I was in a shop that used F5 and it was a nightmare. Some of the best network admins I've ever worked with and they couldn't nail down why the load balancer did the things it did, when it did them. It was bad enough that the config had more exceptions than rules just so that we could try to eliminate anomalies. I hope NGINX doesn't suffer too much under this new ownership.
It may get embedded tcl.
Re: Nginx to Be Acquired by F5 Networks
#266Earlier quoted context omitted.
Google offers their most recent infrastructure as a service in GCP, e.g. Cloud Dataflow, and it hasn't exactly taken the world by storm. Industry standards matter, even if they are inferior implementations; the differential is just not that big.
Dataflow is based on oss Apache airflow. I don’t know how well it’s doing in the wild but every IT admin I’ve worked with are super excited to use it.
Airflow and Dataflow are not related.
Google open sourced dataflow as Beam - https://beam.apache.org
Re: Nginx to Be Acquired by F5 Networks
#267I guess that signals it's time for nginx users to check out possible alternatives - just in case, if things turn out for the worse. I can recommend having a look at https://varnish-cache.org/ - while its performance might not be 100% up to par with nginx in some (very, very high-end) scenarios, it has many other fortes that nginx (at least in its FOSS release version; I've never used nginx plus) just cannot match in…
According to the public statements, F5 is committing to maintain the current level of resources NGINX has allocated to their open source programs, to keep the same dev team involved, to keep licensing as it currently is, not change any of the repositories on Mercurial and GitHub and to keep the NGINX brand. Which only means that NGINX will get even better over time.
Oh boy do I have a bridge to sell to you!
Re: Nginx to Be Acquired by F5 Networks
#268Earlier quoted context omitted.
"How much is it?" "How much you got?"
Pretty much this. Not Hashicorp, but another vendor I was speaking to initial gave me a $10,000 a month quote that we got knocked down to $500 a month after some negotiating.
This has been my experience with I'd say 80% of the "Enterprise SAAS" outfits I've interacted with.
Re: Nginx to Be Acquired by F5 Networks
#269I wonder if Facebook's opensourcing of BPF [1] 4 months ago
had negative affects on F5's competitive advantaages.
BPF allows to run user code in kernel modules, so things like packet rewriting and traffic shaping are possible. [2]
[1]https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18337429
[2]https://facebookmicrosites.github.io/bpf/docs/bpf-docs#tools...
Re: Nginx to Be Acquired by F5 Networks
#270Earlier quoted context omitted.
The only claimants to your source code are those to whom you've distributed binaries built from GPL sources. Anyone else can pound sand.
not the case for AGPL: then it's everyone who has access to your online service built with the code.
I don't think it works like that.
This is a copyright license at its heart. It is a contract between the copyright-owner and the service owner. The end user is just 3rd party.