I'm nervous about what this means for the future of nginx's built in load balancing. That's been an important and rock-solid part of my infrastructure.
I too am worried about this. Thankfully F5 can't just disappear the open source nginx.
Nginx to Be Acquired by F5 Networks
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Re: Nginx to Be Acquired by F5 Networks
#132Up next is likely HaProxy....
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#133So...what is the future of enterprise open source? Is there a future for enterprise open source? If you start a company and open source your core/clients, your product becomes part of AWS, and AWS runs you into the ground. If you mix in proprietary licenses to protect yourself, AWS forks your core, adds in open-source licensed clients, then runs you into the ground (and you lose open-source contributors/supporters as…
As somebody, who has no knowledge about that part of the business (Amazon Web Services in production), could you elaborate on that with a few lines or point me to some articles? Thank you.
Re: Nginx to Be Acquired by F5 Networks
#134I guess that signals it's time for nginx users to check out possible alternatives - just in case, if things turn out for the worse. I can recommend having a look at https://varnish-cache.org/ - while its performance might not be 100% up to par with nginx in some (very, very high-end) scenarios, it has many other fortes that nginx (at least in its FOSS release version; I've never used nginx plus) just cannot match in…
According to the public statements, F5 is committing to maintain the current level of resources NGINX has allocated to their open source programs, to keep the same dev team involved, to keep licensing as it currently is, not change any of the repositories on Mercurial and GitHub and to keep the NGINX brand. Which only means that NGINX will get even better over time.
Re: Nginx to Be Acquired by F5 Networks
#135So...what is the future of enterprise open source? Is there a future for enterprise open source? If you start a company and open source your core/clients, your product becomes part of AWS, and AWS runs you into the ground. If you mix in proprietary licenses to protect yourself, AWS forks your core, adds in open-source licensed clients, then runs you into the ground (and you lose open-source contributors/supporters as…
Open source strives where different entities develop the software together to the mutual benefit without a single company trying to push their roadmap, without a single company trying to grab all revenue.
See Linux, see different Apache projects, see PHP etc.
Re: Nginx to Be Acquired by F5 Networks
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Serious question: what does it actually do in non-corp speak, though?
It's an inline swiss-army-network appliance that can do a fuckton of things at the speed of packets or nearly so up to 100Gbs. load balancing? check. stateful load balancing? check. ssl-termination? check. HSM-enabled ssl-termination? check. hardware accelerated ssl-termination? check. firewall? check. NG firewall? check. compiled Lua/tcl (i forget which) scripts so you can program something insanely complicated? che…
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HashiCorp is doing VERY well revenue-wise. They are not struggling. Where did you hear they are struggling? (I have no affiliation with HashiCorp.)
Instead of taking either of your words for it, are there any actual direct sources on Hashicorp's earnings? The only source I found was https://www.hashicorp.com/blog/2017-year-in-review which just says the company "can be successful", not that it is making money.
From Mitchell himself - at the very least they are growing very quickly. For all the complaining about "pricing pages", I think hashicorp is doing the right thing. Focus on selling to the big dogs who can give you a sustainable business and don't cloud your pipeline with smaller shops who wish to shop around.
Re: Nginx to Be Acquired by F5 Networks
#138I guess that signals it's time for nginx users to check out possible alternatives - just in case, if things turn out for the worse. I can recommend having a look at https://varnish-cache.org/ - while its performance might not be 100% up to par with nginx in some (very, very high-end) scenarios, it has many other fortes that nginx (at least in its FOSS release version; I've never used nginx plus) just cannot match in…
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My understanding is that Google has recently deviated from this strategy. The result of the strategy you mention is that the industry standardized on other companies' implementation of ideas that came from Google: Hadoop (MapReduce), HDFS (GFS), ZooKeeper (Chubby, and more. For examples of newer open source projects that see more active maintenance from Google, see Kubernetes and TensorFlow.
Does that deviation lineup with Google's entry into offering cloud computing?
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What happened is the realisation that FOSS developers also have to pay their bills and idealism only takes so far. So anyone that refuses to pay for their tools will eventually either loose them, or contend to be happy to use lesser ones.
What is interesting is that we are seeing people in other industries shamed for hiring people in unpaid or underpaid jobs and even people shamed for taking those jobs. I wonder if that is something that will ever happen in the software industry. Open source software is clearly a net positive overall. However is it a net negative for the industry when enterprise developers rely on open source software without demandin…
Speaking for my own open source projects; There are already better, cheaper, and easier alternatives to my software. I'm already paying out the ass for something I could just download. I'm doing it for reasons that I can't, or won't, buy. And I know that sounds cliche because it is cliche, but passion is cliche.
We're programmers and hackers here. Just like a hot rod enthusiast spends $200k and 3 years building a car he could buy in a catalogue for $75k; we don't pay as much attention to cost/benefit relationships as we'd like to think.