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Re: Sway 1.0

#91

What's the status of blurry XWayland applications on HiDPI screens? I tried to replace i3 with sway a couple months ago and couldn't get VSCode to look decent with scaling.

KDE is working on a solution that we hope to learn from for a future sway release.

Re: Sway 1.0

#93

This is huge news. Sway is absolutely incredible, it puts macOS, built by Apple's army of engineers and dump trucks of money to shame in its simplicity, stability, and efficiency. If you want the best of the best DE, look no further. If you're on the fence about trying a tiling windows manager, I say, give it a shot for a single week and you'll never look back. Invest a few hours in a sway config file that will serve…

I really don't get the benefit of a tiling window manager. I tried one and instantly felt boxed in. There's not enough room on the screen for everything I need to have opened and flip between, which is why I use an overlapping window manager in the first place.

The one place where I prefer stacking window managers is that I can have a transparent terminal/editor floating over the docs. Stacking things on top of each other while being able to see all of them is pretty nice.

Re: Sway 1.0

#94

I really want to use this but I've had trouble with Wayland and HiDPI. Has anyone gotten proper scaling working?

It should work perfectly with native Wayland apps.

However, Xwayland apps will be blurry. This is a harder problem to solve, but KDE is working on a solution which would work for sway too.

Re: Sway 1.0

#95
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> But there's nothing different between your workflow and my workflow except for the fact that our workflows are completely different. Is it so hard to accept that there are different ways of using a computer and your perceived increase in efficiency might not pan out for everyone? :)

I don't accept that it isn't immediately obvious that tiling is more efficient than dragging to maximize real estate on a single workspace. If someone wants to use an inferior method because that's what they are comfortable with that is fine. Just don't assert that the two are equal without some reasoned argument.

Some windows are more efficient to use when they are a certain size or shape, such as where text is made to wrap at a comfortable width for reading. Efficiency of screen pixel usage isn't the only factor affecting efficiency of the interface in practice.

Re: Sway 1.0

#96

What's the status of blurry XWayland applications on HiDPI screens? I tried to replace i3 with sway a couple months ago and couldn't get VSCode to look decent with scaling.

Makes it a non-starter for me as well :/

Re: Sway 1.0

#97

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> it puts macOS, built by Apple's army of engineers and dump trucks of money to shame I don't really think they're designed for the same purpose or audience, so I don't think it shames the Apple engineers.

You're missing the point. Sway is a team of people working on their own time out in the open to create something they really care about for almost no money. The final product is staggeringly good compared to a commercial OS like macOS, and yes, tiling WM requires more up front investment and isn't a normal pattern for most folks, but that shouldn't make people feel like Sway or tiling is beyond them.

But they aren't making an OS. They're making a window manager. Why are you comparing a WM to an OS?

Re: Sway 1.0

#98
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Awesome! Fantastic news. If there's any chance sircmpwn is lurking here, quick question: has there been any further development on IME support? I use Mozc+IBus. Last time I tried on sway it almost worked, but the prediction box didn't show. That was the only gripe I had with sway. It solved all my tiny issues with i3 and made config much nicer too. Certainly making the switch if IME is better (or if I can easily help…

はい、Swayでibus+anthyはできます。Mozcはできないと思いました、でも今から変わったが可能性です。Swayを楽しんで!

Re: Sway 1.0

#99
I like the idea of tiling window managers but never got the use for it.

99% of my time is spent between my browser, my IDE and my terminal. A half-size browser is painful to work with, I need it full screen. Same for IDE. Same for terminal, I do need multiple terminals but I want them together.

I also have another workspace for chat stuff (browser with whatsapp, slack, messenger) and another for random apps (spotify mostly)

So I end up having cmd-tab set up to switch between browser and IDE (don't even get me started on the default macOS behaviour) and have a drop-down terminal mapped to shift-space, so I'm always one keystroke away from the app I want to use. For the rare case I use another app (some excel file containing data), I can afford the manual window switch.

And for the tiling terminal, tmux is my friend. Also allows me to see the same set of terminals between workspaces (multiple terminal windows on the same tmux session)

Re: Sway 1.0

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Based on Wayland, meaning it's more modern. Here's what I've heard for benefits: * Better multi-window and gesture support * Gaps built in (currently, i3 is separate from i3-gaps, which is what most actually use). No separate forks to deal with, meaning easier maintenance. * Wallpaper * Faster However, there are some big downsides. Wayland is still pretty beta, and not everything works well with it. This is not the f…

As mentioned in the OP, we now have wl-clipboard. :) Furthermore, it's proprietary NVIDIA drivers Wayland isn't supporting, not NVIDIA itself. AFAIK nouveau works just fine. There are many great reasons for not supporting the proprietary NVIDIA drivers.

Noveau sucks, unfortunately. Performance is bad, and you can't load custom firmware like you could with older cards (signing problems). I respect the effort the developers have made; any other driver would be of excellent quality had this much effort been put into it. But Nvidia keeps on being a jerk about it. Easy to say don't support Nvidia, but at the present moment they have the fastest consumer cards on the market.
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