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India Imposes Complete Ban on Solid Plastic Waste Imports

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Re: India Imposes Complete Ban on Solid Plastic Waste Imports

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This is just funny for me. India already is one of the countries where you can see waste everywhere.

That problem is being fixed, aforementioned article is one of the steps being taken towards that goal. Funny how "waste everywhere" automatically translates to let's dump more garbage in that country.

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post #48

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Maybe Russia needs a new industry? Is there any other nation (North Korea aside) that would let foreigners ship trash to be dumped on their land?

Yes, my country - Poland, and what happens is this: 1. Some other country exports its trash to Poland. 2. The trash is stored at a specific place and not a few days go by until an "accidental" fire erupts. 3. The "entrepreneurs" who originally took the trash profit not only from that, but any potential insurance claim. 4. Rinse and repeat.

Who does profit from it?

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post #28

Saw this on my feed today: A relatively painless guide to cutting plastic out of your life https://www.fastcompany.com/90312169

The article suggests glass shampoo bottles? No thanks. Plastic is a great material, it is just abused.

Plastic is not a great material for the environment and your comment illustrates the crux of the issue for humanity. We tend to optimize for local maxima and not global ones. As other commenters have pointed out pricing in externalities would be a great step forward. Plastic shampoo containers may not be so great in your eyes if their cost became prohibitively expensive.

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There is a powerful (sub?)culture in the business world based upon proclaiming your company is sustainable. LEED is actually part of the problem in a way. The metrics are based on unimportant factors like “diversion” (meaning it was dumped in a foreign country as “recycling” rather than safely burned or land filled), and the measurements are almost All estimates. It will be a long road to change a culture that demand…

What does safely burned in the context of plastic packaging mean?

Waste to energy programs, where exhaust is contained and not released into the atmosphere, is a viable means of disposal for many materials. Particularly viable for those which are oil based, like plastic, which are highly pollutive if not contained (see our oceans), take a massive amount of time to naturally decompose, and have relatively high potential energy (because they are petroleum based).

Edit: I notice you said plastic packaging. Which made me thing of the massive amount of plastics in retailed packaging. My answer there would be that reducing is always better than recycling - start shipping with less material and/or more paper based products that naturally decompose in a few days/weeks.

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India should have done this long ago. Recycling items is way harder than it needs to be. First companies need to re-engineer their products to minimize the solid waste and maximize recyclability Second, people need to easily understand what can be recycled and what can not so they can make an informed decision Third, communities should not have the option to ship out their waste and have someone else deal with the pr…

> Solid waste is as much pollution as smog has been in large cities. Clean air laws have changed the whole environment in cites like Los Angeles.It's time we start doing the same with solid waste.

As much as smog "has been"? Los Angeles today is still full of SUVs belching smog. The air quality is still insanely awful. Yet the dialog has moved on (maybe because SUVs are for the wealthy?).

Why care about landfills? Air pollution kills people, in addition to hurting them less severely and blocking the views. And on a global scale, climate change is going to hurt everyone on Earth. Landfills in the United States, where they should be properly lined so they don't leak poisons, don't hurt anybody. Plastic in landfills even sequesters carbon.

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post #55

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What does safely burned in the context of plastic packaging mean?

Waste to energy programs, where exhaust is contained and not released into the atmosphere, is a viable means of disposal for many materials. Particularly viable for those which are oil based, like plastic, which are highly pollutive if not contained (see our oceans), take a massive amount of time to naturally decompose, and have relatively high potential energy (because they are petroleum based). Edit: I notice you s…

Thank you for your swift and comprehensive reply.

I wasn’t aware plastics could be burned and the exhaust contained / treated / whatever.

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India should have done this long ago. Recycling items is way harder than it needs to be. First companies need to re-engineer their products to minimize the solid waste and maximize recyclability Second, people need to easily understand what can be recycled and what can not so they can make an informed decision Third, communities should not have the option to ship out their waste and have someone else deal with the pr…

I have to say I agree with the regineering part, i don’t get PET bottles with hard plastic lids and labels. These things can’t be recycled as is it seems as a lot of times I see a seperate bin for the lids.

There are a LOT of places where people don’t need to use plastic, it’s just how things are done and it’s convenient. Small example, individually wrapping fruit in plastic at the grocer. Fruit comes with its own packaging!

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I agree with you completely. Imagine if Libraries didn't already exist and the US Government tried to implement a Public Library. Fox New would have a field day.

Good point. Or think about the Interstate system. No way the country could so such a thing today.

Inter-state what? Trading? Highways?
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