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Personally, I'm annoyed at Debian still not having a Web frontend for bug filing. Practically all other distros have some kind of issue tracker site that allows filing bugs through it. Using reportbug or e-mail feels way less comfortable in comparison.
I've been using Debian / Ubuntu for many years, as much due to inertia and familiarity as anything else. And I have a lot of respect for the project. If I wanted to start being a contributor to a distribution, which one would be the best to dive in to?
The post shares several pain points with Debian's slow, aging change-process and integration-infrastructure. Open question: If Debian contributors feel the need to drop out and move on due to these pain points, are there less-painful Linux-distribution projects out there that are getting more of these pain points right they can flock to? Is this a sign that Debian needs to reform, or that other, newer distributions a…
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Personally, I'm annoyed at Debian still not having a Web frontend for bug filing. Practically all other distros have some kind of issue tracker site that allows filing bugs through it. Using reportbug or e-mail feels way less comfortable in comparison.
Better have fewer high quality bug reports than more low quality reports. The latter just teaches you to ignore them.
I've known people who can provide high quality, detailed bugs, decide not to because the extra hassles in reporting to Debian just aren't worth it to them.
The post shares several pain points with Debian's slow, aging change-process and integration-infrastructure. Open question: If Debian contributors feel the need to drop out and move on due to these pain points, are there less-painful Linux-distribution projects out there that are getting more of these pain points right they can flock to? Is this a sign that Debian needs to reform, or that other, newer distributions a…
Personally, I'm annoyed at Debian still not having a Web frontend for bug filing. Practically all other distros have some kind of issue tracker site that allows filing bugs through it. Using reportbug or e-mail feels way less comfortable in comparison.
Better have fewer high quality bug reports than more low quality reports. The latter just teaches you to ignore them.
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Better have fewer high quality bug reports than more low quality reports. The latter just teaches you to ignore them.
That falsely presupposes that only people with poor quality bug reports would be put off from reporting bugs due to the interface. I've known people who can provide high quality, detailed bugs, decide not to because the extra hassles in reporting to Debian just aren't worth it to them.
And I've seen Debian package maintainers fail to file bugs correctly....
The post shares several pain points with Debian's slow, aging change-process and integration-infrastructure. Open question: If Debian contributors feel the need to drop out and move on due to these pain points, are there less-painful Linux-distribution projects out there that are getting more of these pain points right they can flock to? Is this a sign that Debian needs to reform, or that other, newer distributions a…
I switched all my servers to Ubuntu years ago when people were telling me "Ubuntu is no server distribution". I honestly never looked back.
Watch out for what packages you rely on, and what repository those packages come from. If they're in universe, expect your bug reports on Launchpad to go unanswered or unresolved. The only way to get fixes in them is to go upstream to Debian. But note that not every bug in a universe package is actually fixable or broken in a Debian world, because the bug might be down to interactions between a decision made by Canonical with packages in the main repository, and those for the universe package.
I used debian for over 10 years and never managed to contribute anything. 10 Minutes after using homebrew for the first time I sent in a PR to update a package to the latest version and update the built dependencies.
Honestly, as both a Mac and a Debian user, I’m not sure which one I prefer. I understand your frustration, but random strangers not being allowed to push updates to my operating system in 5.34 seconds doesn’t sound all bad. To me. (Obviously not that TFA paints a rosy picture..)
So that's what the frustrating to maintainers crumbling infrastructure and crappy tooling are for. Now it all makes sense!
Actually, I'd very much prefer quickly pushed updates in case of severe security issues. Debian had lots of really ancient packages with problems in "stable" last time I looked.