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Winding down my Debian involvement

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Re: Winding down my Debian involvement

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The post shares several pain points with Debian's slow, aging change-process and integration-infrastructure.

Open question: If Debian contributors feel the need to drop out and move on due to these pain points, are there less-painful Linux-distribution projects out there that are getting more of these pain points right they can flock to? Is this a sign that Debian needs to reform, or that other, newer distributions are outpacing it?

Re: Winding down my Debian involvement

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Personally, I'm annoyed at Debian still not having a Web frontend for bug filing. Practically all other distros have some kind of issue tracker site that allows filing bugs through it.

Using reportbug or e-mail feels way less comfortable in comparison.

Re: Winding down my Debian involvement

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post #5

The post shares several pain points with Debian's slow, aging change-process and integration-infrastructure. Open question: If Debian contributors feel the need to drop out and move on due to these pain points, are there less-painful Linux-distribution projects out there that are getting more of these pain points right they can flock to? Is this a sign that Debian needs to reform, or that other, newer distributions a…

I switched all my servers to Ubuntu years ago when people were telling me "Ubuntu is no server distribution". I honestly never looked back.

Re: Winding down my Debian involvement

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post #5

The post shares several pain points with Debian's slow, aging change-process and integration-infrastructure. Open question: If Debian contributors feel the need to drop out and move on due to these pain points, are there less-painful Linux-distribution projects out there that are getting more of these pain points right they can flock to? Is this a sign that Debian needs to reform, or that other, newer distributions a…

I like Debian, but I agree it's become too slow and bureaucratic.

Sadly, like most big organizations, it is hard to implement changes from inside.

In my opinion, most Debian's issues stem from a centralized imperative package manager where all packages need to be carefully kept in sync for things to work. Moving to something like Nix would greatly simplify development.

This is far from a new idea. In fact, it was quite thoroughly discussed in debian-devel mailing list back in 2008, 2013 and several other times [1].

[1] https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2008/12/msg01007.html

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