GoFundMe CEO: ‘Gigantic Gaps’ in Health System Showing Up in Crowdfunding

Post by linuxftw » Sun, Mar 10, 2019, 1:54 PM UTC

pault wrote: post #14

ourmandave wrote: post #7

Every gas station and convenience store I go into has a glass jar with somebody's family picture and a handwritten note pleading for money to help them afford a life saving operation. Most times it's that f*cker, cancer.

I spent a few years in Belize and sadly this is the de facto public health insurance program there. Everyone who gets cancer or has a major accident has local fundraisers to get help from the community.

Post by martin_bech » Sun, Mar 10, 2019, 3:14 PM UTC

1123581321 wrote: post #41

Brendinooo wrote: post #31

>Or the Tennessee couple who want to get pregnant, but whose insurance doesn’t cover the $20,000 worth of “medications, surgeries, scans, lab monitoring, and appointments [that] will need to be paid for upfront and out-of-pocket” for in vitro fertilization. Would an ideal healthcare system cover in vitro for anyone, full stop? Took a buzz through the NHS requirements[0] and there are definitely restrictions. And in v…

Agreed. Were the US to adopt a system similar to the NHS, I would hope that electives like IVF would continue to not be covered. Presumably it was chosen because the number is more shocking than the typical $500-2,000 request to cover a deductible or the less kindly viewed request to cover living expenses during a medical situation.

Post by refurb » Sun, Mar 10, 2019, 3:33 PM UTC

toomuchtodo wrote: post #119

refurb wrote: post #108

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You realize Medicare Part C and D are entirely run by private companies right?

I am. Part C is optional (Medicare Advantage, akin to an upgraded private insurance plan in European universal healthcare systems), and D is prescription drug coverage that a single payer system can administer as part of its system for all participants.

Post by pault » Sun, Mar 10, 2019, 3:50 PM UTC

linuxftw wrote: post #171

pault wrote: post #14

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I spent a few years in Belize and sadly this is the de facto public health insurance program there. Everyone who gets cancer or has a major accident has local fundraisers to get help from the community.

This is essentially what single-payer is, except people are free to determine who the actually want to cover. A bunch of normal folks setting aside money. Unless people just expect 'the rich' to pay for everything.

Post by conanbatt » Sun, Mar 10, 2019, 4:03 PM UTC

dmitriid wrote: post #167

conanbatt wrote: post #130

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Who stops you from buying insulin outside the US and re-selling it in the domestic market?

conanbatt: you don't get clinical research from universal healthcare HN: wrong, here's why conanbatt: but medical tourism HN: doesn't apply, here are reasons conanbatt: the price goes up because of regulation HN: wrong, here's why conanbatt: what stops you fro buying in Canada --- I haven't seen such blatant shifting of goalposts on HN in a while.