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GoFundMe CEO: ‘Gigantic Gaps’ in Health System Showing Up in Crowdfunding

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I like to write short stories in my free time. One that I’ve been working on over the last year is one where the concept of “crowdfunded healthcare” evolves into a dystopian game show where people go on TV and share their sob story on why they need money. Then the viewers at home get to choose who gets the show’s prize money each season through a bracket style voting system that crowns a champion at the end. I had to…

Jesus, this blew my mind. Not because the concept is outlandish, but because it wouldn't surprise me at all if it actually existed, and I think it would be immensely popular.

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In America health care is supposed to be as expensive as possible. People demand the system spare no expense on their care.

I have some notes to write about "the predicaments of old people". Both my grandfathers lived an extra few years thanks to the pacemakers Medicare paid for. But they just suffered for those final years.

A lot of old people's problems are related to excess alcohol consumption. IMHO, there would be much more funds available to spend on the gaps experienced by younger people, if doctors assumed their elderly patients are drinking heavily and treated them for that instead of blowing the programs' budgets on treating the down-stream effects of heavy alcohol consumption [edit2].

I have some friends who lived in Canada for a while. They said the Canadian system doesn't go all-out to keep people alive who are going to die anyways...

A few years ago I stopped by to see one of the passengers whom I'd given a free ride to a few years before. She told me she was pregnant. "But I thought you were becoming a man?" She wasn't a he yet, and she'd gotten with a cis-male... They'd called it off before too long, but that's how she'd gotten knocked up. She also said it had a heart defect (she was maybe 4 months along?). This was caused by the hormones she'd been taking to transition.

I was pretty sure the baby wouldn't survive long, but didn't say anything... I followed them on teh Facebook. ... Scheduled c-section, a half dozen heart surgeries, after maybe four or six months the infant died anyways.

I think other countries' health systems are more careful about how they allocate their health resources [0].

[0] How Cubans Live as Long as Americans at a Tenth of the Cost - https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2016/11/cuba-heal...

[edit1: minor edits] [edit2: changed this from quip about keeping people alive for an extra month or two]

Re: GoFundMe CEO: ‘Gigantic Gaps’ in Health System Showing Up in Crowdfunding

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Every gas station and convenience store I go into has a glass jar with somebody's family picture and a handwritten note pleading for money to help them afford a life saving operation. Most times it's that f*cker, cancer.

I spent a few years in Belize and sadly this is the de facto public health insurance program there. Everyone who gets cancer or has a major accident has local fundraisers to get help from the community.

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post #11

I like to write short stories in my free time. One that I’ve been working on over the last year is one where the concept of “crowdfunded healthcare” evolves into a dystopian game show where people go on TV and share their sob story on why they need money. Then the viewers at home get to choose who gets the show’s prize money each season through a bracket style voting system that crowns a champion at the end. I had to…

Jesus, this blew my mind. Not because the concept is outlandish, but because it wouldn't surprise me at all if it actually existed, and I think it would be immensely popular.

Yes! It was supposed to be over the top satire with a comical tone, but then it just ended up depressing me because it started to feel far too realistic...

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I like to write short stories in my free time. One that I’ve been working on over the last year is one where the concept of “crowdfunded healthcare” evolves into a dystopian game show where people go on TV and share their sob story on why they need money. Then the viewers at home get to choose who gets the show’s prize money each season through a bracket style voting system that crowns a champion at the end. I had to…

Sounds like a black mirror episode? Maybe submit it?

Re: GoFundMe CEO: ‘Gigantic Gaps’ in Health System Showing Up in Crowdfunding

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I like to write short stories in my free time. One that I’ve been working on over the last year is one where the concept of “crowdfunded healthcare” evolves into a dystopian game show where people go on TV and share their sob story on why they need money. Then the viewers at home get to choose who gets the show’s prize money each season through a bracket style voting system that crowns a champion at the end. I had to…

I will be down-voted to hell, but I have worked in health insurance company. Large insurance companies have doctors and layers that basically sit down and make decisions about how much they will pay (if ever) for treatment. Your scenario has real life basis.

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This is wonderful, it really warms my heart to see people contribute voluntarily. That being said, it appears a large portion are people that were uninsured and then came upon a major medical emergency. Why do people take their health for granted? Even those that are insured, look at the obesity and smoking rates, two significant factors in unexpected early death.

> Why do people take their health for granted?

This is a very myopic view, one that I guess makes you lucky to have. Health insurance is expensive. On the individual market, premiums have more than doubled between 2011 and 2018[1]. Employer-provided health insurance costs have followed a similar trend, with employee contributions increasing at a rate that outpaces employee compensation by a long shot[2].

Not only are health costs increasing at rates that far exceed compensation rates, cost of living expenses are increasing far faster than compensation rates. Average hourly compensation rates have been nearly stagnant since the 1970s[3].

[1] https://kaiserfamilyfoundation.files.wordpress.com/2018/10/9...

[2] https://img.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/files/2012/0...

[3] https://i2.cdn.turner.com/money/dam/assets/130305161550-char...

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post #3

This is wonderful, it really warms my heart to see people contribute voluntarily. That being said, it appears a large portion are people that were uninsured and then came upon a major medical emergency. Why do people take their health for granted? Even those that are insured, look at the obesity and smoking rates, two significant factors in unexpected early death.

A couple years ago my friend and his wife had a head-on collision at highway speed when some drunk asshole crossed the center line.

The helicopter ride to the hospital was $80,000 per person.

They have awesome insurance (plus supplemental) that doesn't cover a dime of that.

Countless surgeries later and that $160K is a tiny fraction of the total.

Re: GoFundMe CEO: ‘Gigantic Gaps’ in Health System Showing Up in Crowdfunding

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How much longer until GoFundMe becomes America's leading healthcare provider?

If Watsi open sourced their platform (Rails on Heroku if memory serves me), I’d bolt it together with medical tourism (travel arrangement through bulk purchasing and scheduling with foreign providers) to get these Americans treated in Canada, Mexico, Cuba, and India for a fraction of the price. It’d be a shim to save lives and reduce suffering until the US implements universal healthcare.

Healthcare is my hill to die on due to life experience.

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