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Ask HN: How to speak like a leader, not like an engineer?

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Re: Ask HN: How to speak like a leader, not like an engineer?

#81
Things i learn't the hard way on transition from a Founder to Product Manager being a non technical guy:

Firstly understand the transition means a lot of unlearning, sometimes with parts that you hold dear to you. My advice to you is to be honest with yourself, your team and stakeholders about the same. Makes it easier on all of the folks and eases the transition.

3 Circles of X: As you start going up the ladder, your focus is on a birds eye view of three circles: Your Customers/Markets, Your Products and Your Team. You are here since you get the bigger picture and you need to help your team do all of their core functions with as little hassle as possible. I came to terms with myself when i started thinking of myself as a lubricant, and it all made sense.

Tons of people go through this, find people that have recently gone through the transition and talk your problems out. Also probably give Managing Humans by Michael Lopp a read.

Hope this helps!

Re: Ask HN: How to speak like a leader, not like an engineer?

#82
post #43

Study persuasion and communication. * Robert Cialdini's "Influence: The Psychology of Persuasion * Jeff Cannon's "Leadership Lessons of the Navy Seals" * Dale Carnegie's "How to Win Friends and Influence People" Attend Public Speaking workshops. If there's a ToastMasters club in your area, join it. Improv can be another great way to learn how to get "less rigid" and more open with your communication style. https://ww…

But also don't overdo it. People can tell when you're just parroting the countless business/persuasion books.

Whenever I use a technique I've learned about in a book, I try to make it a point that I'm doing that, and I frequently mention the book the technique comes from. Just because it's in a book doesn't disqualify it as an effective method. At the same time, being transparent about your methods is important, since the methods themselves should be subject to scrutiny and understanding.

Re: Ask HN: How to speak like a leader, not like an engineer?

#83
he is telling you:

Operational level - to keep the technical jargon out, dont give technical details but give business strategy related details. if you need then go in tactical ways you can solve the problem. - your information should be bulleted list of 4-5 words per line in business terms. - you should talk in terms of program level, org level strategy, program level budget/matrix work, dependencies etc. - your metrics conversation should be in terms of business terms such as basis point impact to the program. - you should not talk architecture or logic level design but in terms of connecting orgs, blockers due to various programs. - view and think in terms of non-biased decisions to be made objectively. - talk in terms of process not code - i do not want my team members to have crap excuse about defects occur b/c this and that issues but i want to know metric based impact and recommendations and alternatives. - present 2-3 options (unbiased) to help make right decisions.

People Level talk in terms of - strengths and opportunities. - building bench strength. - talk in terms of pipeline - team building activities, team collaboration, compensation packages, org chart and skill needed. -

lastly, do not go to your boss with your daily problems, he is your last resort.

Re: Ask HN: How to speak like a leader, not like an engineer?

#84
post #4

An engineer focuses on the what, where, and how...a leader focuses on the who and why. For example you are considering adding a feature to your app. As an engineer you think of what you need to build how to implement it, where to store the data or put the logic. A manager focuses on why you should or shouldn't build it, who on the team does what part, how much it costs, etc. Imagine the transition from line cook to e…

Totally agree -- I too had to learn this the hard way. Also, I wrote this during the difficult period when I myself was transitioning from tech to lead a few years ago. Hope it helps: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/failure-delegate-pitfall-tran...

Re: Ask HN: How to speak like a leader, not like an engineer?

#86
I don’t know how to you advise you in a precise and concise manner, and I’m still learning and hope to do more. Let me try.

I’ve worked at massive service companies, including Razorfish, where I excelled at allocating the right people at the right time, with optimization for the best profit to the company. I’ve also worked on many products (for my own Startups and for other Founders), and I’ve begun to realize the best way to be a leader is to assume that 'everyone else is as good as you were, perhaps even much better than you.'

I used to research ahead, prototype, and articulate solutions and ask the team to make it better, execute it. Now, I just poke the tip of the problem and let the team get involved early on, handle the problems and the solutions. I try to acknowledge their accomplishments, let everyone know the awesome things they did, the sacrifices they made and help them connect to one another. Give enough warnings to non-performers and try to help them in private. Of course, if even after a few tries, they are let go.

Earlier, I used to say that I’m good with designs, development, and business too. These days, I believe I’m just a designer - I design opportunities, careers, teams, products, and organizations.

That is my current method of leadership - talk less, let others be doers, make others the hero of their stories. “Do now what you wish (or have) to be doing 1 year from now.”

You might have seen and heard many inspiring videos. Here is one I recently saw and it strikes deep, Patty McCord’s 8 lessons on building a company people enjoy working for https://youtu.be/iBa9EoEbb38?t=18

Re: Ask HN: How to speak like a leader, not like an engineer?

#87
1. Keep your discussions high level.

2. A leader’s job is to make sure the ship reaches its destination. A real leader assumes responsibility for taking the entire team where it needs to go.

3. Don’t be petty. Leadership is tough. You’re going to have to tolerate a lot more and give a lot more than the others. Make sure your communications reflect that.

4. Dive into details only as needed, and better in a one on one where you’re only speaking the parties its relevant to. Everyone doesn’t need to hear everything.

5. Other leaders in your same rank don’t have as much visibility into your day to day as you do. All details won’t be relevant to them. Keep it high level. Develop the skill of having a normal conversation, keep a few appropriate jokes in your back pocket, and use a story or two to illustrate your point instead of numbers and statistics. People remember how you make them feel.

6. Be observant, develop your skills on reading and displaying appropriate body language, communication is more than just the words that come out of our mouths.

7. Know yourself, your pitfalls and strengths. Are you glass half full or half empty. How does that impact your communication and your team. Find complentary people and try to take insight from them.

8. Make an effort to find a mentor if you haven’t already, these are excellent conversations to have with them.

9. PhD interview. Explain your research to a layman (doesn’t have to be research and you don’t have to be a PhD)

10. Celebrate wins, learn from losses, build some positive momentum around your team and project.

All the best!

Re: Ask HN: How to speak like a leader, not like an engineer?

#89
I would assume you're giving too many details. People higher up the chain don't have time for details: that's why they hire you, so you can make decisions at that level.

You need to communicate:

  - status of the project
  - external blockers
  - progress on OKRs or KPIs
  - important personnel issues (e.g. people leaving, big HR issues, things that eventually will affect your deliverables)
The key is not to overwhelm with noise and learn to communicate what they want to know.

Re: Ask HN: How to speak like a leader, not like an engineer?

#90
An aspect of it that I've been taught is, rather than explaining why something can't or shouldn't be done, explain what it will take to get something done. E.g. don't say "we can't do X because it's too expensive, requires too many people, is too risky, ..." Instead say "doing X would require raising additional funding or diverting funding, we'd need to pull people from other teams and/or hire additional headcount, will require some risk reduction investigation for two weeks before we can give a complete assessment, etc." Then let your CEO, board, whatever decide or help decide if the costs are too high.
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