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Upboat for rationalisation. Also, from the European perspective (and specifically speaking of the technology sector, as that's what I have first-hand experience with), taking sick leave to take care of a child at home isn't a thing, whatsoever. You would just send an email to your team saying that you're sorry but you're working from home because your kid is sick and that would be the end of it. No compulsion to take…
an email to your team?!?! HAHHAHAHA did you even read the part about low income. People in families making <$35000 aren't sending emails to their "team"
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You can't work from home if you work at a gas station, warehouse, hotel security, etc.
Or if you are a doctor, lawyer, politician, etc..
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#124Earlier quoted context omitted.
Upboat for rationalisation. Also, from the European perspective (and specifically speaking of the technology sector, as that's what I have first-hand experience with), taking sick leave to take care of a child at home isn't a thing, whatsoever. You would just send an email to your team saying that you're sorry but you're working from home because your kid is sick and that would be the end of it. No compulsion to take…
On the converse... I'm an American whom lives in Indiana. Let me share my experiences. I worked at Starbucks for 5 years. When I got sick, I showed up to work. I know I worked while having the flu, and making drinks for people. If we didn't show up, our hours for next week would be messed up badly and intentionally. We would go from 35 hours to 15 hours, or we'd be scheduled "clopens" - close at midnight, and open at…
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#125The headline here is incredibly misleading. The CDC is not making the factual claim that "low-income parents send sick kids to school due to lack paid sick leave". The actual truth: a paper from the CDC finding an apparently quite weak link between poverty and rate of school absence due to sickness stuck that in as one of many somewhat plausible explanations, in a very speculative discussion section. To emphasize: th…
Upboat for rationalisation. Also, from the European perspective (and specifically speaking of the technology sector, as that's what I have first-hand experience with), taking sick leave to take care of a child at home isn't a thing, whatsoever. You would just send an email to your team saying that you're sorry but you're working from home because your kid is sick and that would be the end of it. No compulsion to take…
It’s pretty common in the US as well.
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#126The headline here is incredibly misleading. The CDC is not making the factual claim that "low-income parents send sick kids to school due to lack paid sick leave". The actual truth: a paper from the CDC finding an apparently quite weak link between poverty and rate of school absence due to sickness stuck that in as one of many somewhat plausible explanations, in a very speculative discussion section. To emphasize: th…
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I work in the technology sector in the US and my experience is exactly the same as yours. > However, given the American exceptionalism showing up in the thread, I'm going to wager that this probably going to see some vitriolic response. I actually don't believe in American exceptionalism at all. Nor European exceptionalism. But I am fed up with people from the most developed part of the world acting shocked and moral…
It's not all that comparable. U.S. GDP per capita is $60,000. France is $43,500 (PPP). (In terms of GDP per capita, the U.S. is richer than France by about the same ratio as France is richer than Lithuania or Estonia.) Average net financial wealth per household is almost 3x higher in the U.S. than in France, and 2x higher than the OECD average.
OECD reports median household disposable income as $31,100 in France and as $30,600 in the U.S. [1]
That's far more relevant than per capita GDP, if you're looking at the typical experience for the typical person.
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#128Children are expensive. And it’s not about money. It’s about time and energy and effort and incessant tending and bonding. I honestly think people need counseling and planning before they start to think about starting a family. They need back up plans and contingency strategies. It used to be that we lived in small communal groups and non nuclear families. Usually matriarchal wherein the post menopausal grandmother p…
except that in the majority of the world people live in more communal settings. You're probably thinking of nations where people don't even know their neighbors. Also you misunderstand "village". The way I see that term nowadays is more about public and private institutions that provide support for kids in their education and upbringing. At least in SV there are tons of things going on every weekend where kids can go do things for "free" or at very low cost. You just have to look. For example last week the tech museum in sj had free admission sponsored by KDFC the local classical music station, home depot has free workshops every few months, the school district has free weekend field trips for families with preschool kids, not to mention the library has stuff that's going on every single day, more stuff : https://www.bayareaparent.com/
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#129I've seen other comments mention this, but it's really hard to make the case for paying a wage laborer to not show up. Even if he's sick. Can't do janitorial work from home. And such labor is highly fungible: very high turnover, easy replacement, little training, lots of firing/hiring. If you don't show up, you get replaced, mostly because your company now has to hire someone else to do the job and has no reason to k…
The concept you're looking for is "insurance". It solves the problem here (for the employer, for the employee, for the other employees, for society as a whole).
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#130Children are expensive. And it’s not about money. It’s about time and energy and effort and incessant tending and bonding. I honestly think people need counseling and planning before they start to think about starting a family. They need back up plans and contingency strategies. It used to be that we lived in small communal groups and non nuclear families. Usually matriarchal wherein the post menopausal grandmother p…
> no village that will raise your child except that in the majority of the world people live in more communal settings. You're probably thinking of nations where people don't even know their neighbors. Also you misunderstand "village". The way I see that term nowadays is more about public and private institutions that provide support for kids in their education and upbringing. At least in SV there are tons of things…
Again..it’s not about anything being ‘free’ or ‘low cost’. It’s time. It shouldn’t be time sacrificed from parents’ lives that leads to resentment and guilt and finally therapy (if the kids can afford it..but apparently everyone can and if not, they are pharmaceutically managed..)
Group activities are not what raises a child. Learning interactions at every stage in life and not being instructed but observing life..children mimic their peers and the adults around them..if you put a child in front of a tv and with other kids, they will learn from them.
Every child is a crap shot. The genetic gamble might pay off and it would be a rocket engineer or a psychopath or both..if society bears the financial cost of child rearing, parents are supposed to rear them well. The taxes we pay to run public schools, that’s the ‘village’ contributing. It’s not so the parents can go live their lives and work so they can send their sick children to school. I realize some are poor and need to work. So they must move and live a lifestyle they can afford. They need someone giving them financial counsel and job placement and guidance.
But they are handing them off to the state to rear them and we are paying double and we are going to end up with sheep for the next generation with everyone being the same as they all conform to the state instructions.
This scares me!