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Updated Microsoft Store App Developer Agreement: New Revenue Share

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Re: Updated Microsoft Store App Developer Agreement: New Revenue Share

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Post by JoshuaJB »

kop316 wrote: post #25
burtonator wrote: post #18

That's cool... assuming you can get in: https://getpolarized.io/2019/02/28/dear-app-stores-dont-bloc... I found out that our app was crushed after 2 weeks of development. Basically, they won't let us in because we use Electron. Electron is developed in part (primarily) due to Github which they now own. TWO WEEKS I spent porting to the MS App Store only to have them just crush us ... It's great that I can make 95% of…

Heh. This reminds me of something else with using Microsoft. My employer uses Office365 with a smart card authentication for email. In order to use the encryption features, you have to enable an activeX plugin from Microsoft. Microsoft Edge does not trust the Microsoft published plugin and disables it every time I boot up Edge (EDIT: I should note even when I attempt to enable it, it shows up as "disabled" on the ext…

Eh, half the problem is that there are far too many options to maintain, many of them legacy. Smart card authentication has worked great in Edge on Office 365 for years without any plugins at Microsoft, so I imagine your employer has got the wrong box checked somewhere triggering a fall back to ActiveX.

Re: Updated Microsoft Store App Developer Agreement: New Revenue Share

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Post by WorldMaker »

rchaud wrote: post #19

I can understand Microsoft having an app store when Windows Phone and Windows RT were still around, but now Windows is all x86, so people aren't even installing desktop apps anymore outside of games and work-specific apps (say, R), that wouldn't appear on the app store anyway. What's the most popular app on Windows Store anyway? I use Windows 10 every day and I've never noticed anything outside of Bejeweled, Candy Cr…

A lot of classic x86 Win32 apps are in the Store these days, too. It is a safer way to buy and install such things. (Photoshop, iTunes, Office, etc.)

Windows is continuing to expand to ARM even without phones right now. The HoloLens 2 is reported to be built around a Qualcomm Snapdragon.

Windows 10 ARM tablets/netbooks are a product again, in trying to compete with Chrome OS, and it isn't a repeat of the Windows "RT" tablets because Windows 10 on ARM now supports x86 emulation and a lot of classic 32-bit Win32 applications.

Just because you currently don't have a use for the Store doesn't mean that no one has a use for the Store. It's nice finally having a proper central app installer/updater without every application developer installing their own baroque updater and running it on every Windows startup. Getting rid of the Apple Updater alone by installing iTunes from the Windows Store is such a relief.

Re: Updated Microsoft Store App Developer Agreement: New Revenue Share

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Post by MentallyRetired »

hateful wrote: post #20
nerdywordy wrote: post #16

I'd be interested to take the pulse of HN: When you are looking for a new Windows app, does opening up the store even cross your mind? I nearly always go to a web search + download first. Or if it's something dev-centric I look at scoop or chocolatey. The Windows Store is far, far behind in my mindshare. There are a few glimmers of hope though. Python has begun to distribute via the store which is cool. And the Linux…

My issues with the store apps are that most of them act like "apps" and not like "programs/applications". For example, they close on their own with no warning. I tried to use the store version of the Pandora app, but it would be closed when I left it paused for too long. Same with Facebook's Messenger. I don't want that. I want to be able to control when I open and close a program.

That doesn't happen to me with the messenger app...

My biggest issue is the amount of unofficial apps that look official. It's a trust issue. If I go to the website I at least know that I'm getting legit software.

Re: Updated Microsoft Store App Developer Agreement: New Revenue Share

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Post by muststopmyths »

Microsoft is like a competitor in a Three-legged race (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three-legged_race) except both runners are running in opposite directions.

You have one side that's actively working to make Windows obsolete and another that's flailing about trying to make it relevant somehow.

I'm a bitter ex-Windows Phone user, so my perspective could be colored.

Re: Updated Microsoft Store App Developer Agreement: New Revenue Share

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Post by kop316 »

JoshuaJB wrote: post #31
kop316 wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Heh. This reminds me of something else with using Microsoft. My employer uses Office365 with a smart card authentication for email. In order to use the encryption features, you have to enable an activeX plugin from Microsoft. Microsoft Edge does not trust the Microsoft published plugin and disables it every time I boot up Edge (EDIT: I should note even when I attempt to enable it, it shows up as "disabled" on the ext…

Eh, half the problem is that there are far too many options to maintain, many of them legacy. Smart card authentication has worked great in Edge on Office 365 for years without any plugins at Microsoft, so I imagine your employer has got the wrong box checked somewhere triggering a fall back to ActiveX.

So the smart card authentication works (I can log in), it's using the smart card to encrypt/sign emails.

Re: Updated Microsoft Store App Developer Agreement: New Revenue Share

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Post by fartcannon »

hateful wrote: post #20
nerdywordy wrote: post #16

I'd be interested to take the pulse of HN: When you are looking for a new Windows app, does opening up the store even cross your mind? I nearly always go to a web search + download first. Or if it's something dev-centric I look at scoop or chocolatey. The Windows Store is far, far behind in my mindshare. There are a few glimmers of hope though. Python has begun to distribute via the store which is cool. And the Linux…

My issues with the store apps are that most of them act like "apps" and not like "programs/applications". For example, they close on their own with no warning. I tried to use the store version of the Pandora app, but it would be closed when I left it paused for too long. Same with Facebook's Messenger. I don't want that. I want to be able to control when I open and close a program.

If you want to be in control, Windows is the wrong platform for you.

Re: Updated Microsoft Store App Developer Agreement: New Revenue Share

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Post by z3t4 »

I tried adding a web app to the store. Its extremely complicated compared to adding a hosted web app to chrome, where you just need an app manifest. For the windows store you need a bunch of xml files and it seems you must use their IDE. I want to build the package manually via command line so I can understand each step and then automate it.

Re: Updated Microsoft Store App Developer Agreement: New Revenue Share

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Post by [deleted] »

burtonator wrote: post #18

That's cool... assuming you can get in: https://getpolarized.io/2019/02/28/dear-app-stores-dont-bloc... I found out that our app was crushed after 2 weeks of development. Basically, they won't let us in because we use Electron. Electron is developed in part (primarily) due to Github which they now own. TWO WEEKS I spent porting to the MS App Store only to have them just crush us ... It's great that I can make 95% of…

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