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Re: LineageOS 16.0

#101

Post by cmroanirgo »

muks wrote: post #82
Arkanosis wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I bought the same phone… I think it hasn't even been supported for one year, maybe six months, maybe even less. I'm willing to build Lineage myself for it when I find the time for it (the amount of stuff you have to download to build an Android distro is completely crazy), but I'm just wondering… why aren't unofficial builds official? Is there anything that makes it difficult, or do people just not care?

I can give you a link to download my build if you want (which is a pristine unofficial build with Android security patches till February 5, 2019), but in the end, it depends on whether you'll trust a binary build from some random person: https://mukund.org/tmp/lineage-15.1-20190214-UNOFFICIAL-whyr... It is neither difficult nor very slow to build it from source, but it can do with a fast internet link (~fiber speeds)…

> With fiber, the clone and build ought to complete in about a day

That's insane btw. Great that you're ok with it, but utterly impractical for me: ADSL is maxed out at 800kbps and due to line noise generally get 80kbps. So I tether, using 4g and 0 to 1 bar of strength. During heavy cloud and rain it drops to hdpsa.

Re: LineageOS 16.0

#102

Post by ascii_only »

Jaruzel wrote: post #57
ascii_only wrote: post #35

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It's called AOSP. Community makes AOSP images for a bunch different devices. If you are looking for one image that supports multiple devices look for AOSP treble rom.

If you mean the XDA developers AOSP roms, then they are most definitely NOT pure AOSP - Those guys are incapable of just building a rom from AOSP without adding their own cruft. Not to mention that the XDA Developers site is impossible to navigate.

Same applies to LineageOS. Most images of LineageOS also have patches for driver support etc. Only small number of images are official.

Re: LineageOS 16.0

#103

Post by ascii_only »

snazz wrote: post #74
Jaruzel wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you mean the XDA developers AOSP roms, then they are most definitely NOT pure AOSP - Those guys are incapable of just building a rom from AOSP without adding their own cruft. Not to mention that the XDA Developers site is impossible to navigate.

Lineage at least feels like a legit project. I can’t feel too sure downloading random ROMs (with closed-source additions) from XDA considering how shady the entire thing feels. 'jcs sums it up nicely: https://mobile.twitter.com/jcs/status/1069346105069092864

LineageOS also has proprietary blobs inside.

Re: LineageOS 16.0

#104

Post by muks »

cmroanirgo wrote: post #101
muks wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can give you a link to download my build if you want (which is a pristine unofficial build with Android security patches till February 5, 2019), but in the end, it depends on whether you'll trust a binary build from some random person: https://mukund.org/tmp/lineage-15.1-20190214-UNOFFICIAL-whyr... It is neither difficult nor very slow to build it from source, but it can do with a fast internet link (~fiber speeds)…

> With fiber, the clone and build ought to complete in about a day That's insane btw. Great that you're ok with it, but utterly impractical for me: ADSL is maxed out at 800kbps and due to line noise generally get 80kbps. So I tether, using 4g and 0 to 1 bar of strength. During heavy cloud and rain it drops to hdpsa.

I agree with you.

Re: LineageOS 16.0

#105

Post by seotut2 »

kuon wrote: post #75
Jaruzel wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you mean the XDA developers AOSP roms, then they are most definitely NOT pure AOSP - Those guys are incapable of just building a rom from AOSP without adding their own cruft. Not to mention that the XDA Developers site is impossible to navigate.

I have been a programmer/hacker for a long time, but the XDA dev forum is still some kind of obscure place I do not understand. Also the tone is not very user friendly in general, I understand that when you post a rom you built you don't want to do support, but it can be pretty hostile.

The whole Android ecosystem seems so immensely bloated and convoluted. A repository size of >80GB just to build an embedded OS? Memory requirements are also huge.

The divergence from mainline linux, creating a new HAL interface, so much code and logic duplication which already existed elsewhere as FOSS software.

Re: LineageOS 16.0

#106

Post by bubblethink »

cmroanirgo wrote: post #98
bubblethink wrote: post #59

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>If a ROM like that already exists, I'd love to hear about it. If you have a pixel device, this works quite well: https://github.com/dan-v/rattlesnakeos-stack .

OP's question is probably targeting the mid to low end devices, and not an officially supported Google manufactured device. For example, none of my phones (past & present) have ever been supported by any serious rom streams (not counting xda)

That's just how it is. If you care about stuff like this, buy a pixel. If you are short on cash, wait for a year for prices to drop. There is little meaningful difference these days between a new mid/low device and last year's pixel.

Re: LineageOS 16.0

#107

Post by Arkanosis »

muks wrote: post #82
Arkanosis wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I bought the same phone… I think it hasn't even been supported for one year, maybe six months, maybe even less. I'm willing to build Lineage myself for it when I find the time for it (the amount of stuff you have to download to build an Android distro is completely crazy), but I'm just wondering… why aren't unofficial builds official? Is there anything that makes it difficult, or do people just not care?

I can give you a link to download my build if you want (which is a pristine unofficial build with Android security patches till February 5, 2019), but in the end, it depends on whether you'll trust a binary build from some random person: https://mukund.org/tmp/lineage-15.1-20190214-UNOFFICIAL-whyr... It is neither difficult nor very slow to build it from source, but it can do with a fast internet link (~fiber speeds)…

Thanks as lot! But yeah, I'd rather build it myself or at the very least, get a signed binary that's somehow official.

I'm a bit reassured by your words about the build, but the hard part for me is the download as I don't have fiber at home: I've already tried once and given up after a few hours. Compiling should be okay as I've some horsepower :)

Thanks again :)

Re: LineageOS 16.0

#108

Post by lsh »

muks wrote: post #77
lsh wrote: post #31

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the new (and cheap) Xiaomi Note 5 Pro (Whyred) was dropped in October last year after about a year of support. I bought the phone specifically because it was supported. It sucks, but they depend on volunteers to keep the builds happening. There are plenty of unofficial builds now happening but nobody appears to have stepped up for official status. The phone was originally marketed to India and gets a lot of usage the…

Same device here (whyred). If you want an "original" build, you can still build an up-to-date Lineage OS with the latest Android security patches from source from their repo. It is very easy to build it on Fedora or Ubuntu and it doesn't take more than a few minutes to do updated builds once you do the first complete build. Follow the build instructions: https://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/whyred/build An additional t…

thank you, this is helpful
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