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Re: LineageOS 16.0

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Post by igetspam »

JansjoFromIkea wrote: post #56

One thing I've tried to find for a few years but couldn't was a version of Android that focuses on being offline as much as possible. A stable build that allows the installation of APKs and can receive calls but has no wifi and (to the greatest extent possible) is incapable of internet access. A phone with no wifi and no built in browser would probably suffice, you could then control which apps you can access by whic…

You can do it. I've built custom ROMs from the lineage code base that stripped out Bluetooth, GPS, phone, messaging, etc. It's not that hard, just time consuming.

Re: LineageOS 16.0

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Post by commoner »

fro0116 wrote: post #33

I'd personally love to see a ROM that focuses less on customizations and adding their own "flavor" to Android, and just attempts to track AOSP as closely as possible while supporting as many devices as possible, so users whose devices are no longer supported by their manufactures (or who just don't like the customizations the manufacturers have made to the UX) can continue enjoying the latest Android improvements in…

OmniROM is another option:

https://www.omnirom.org/

They beat LineageOS to Android 9 Pie by a couple of months, but only for several supported devices.

Re: LineageOS 16.0

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Post by kuon »

I was using lineage 15 for a while, but when I bought my oneplus 6 I switched to omnirom because they had support for android 9.

Lineage 16 still doesn't seem to support my oneplus 6, I wonder if they will.

Re: LineageOS 16.0

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Post by snazz »

Jaruzel wrote: post #57
ascii_only wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's called AOSP. Community makes AOSP images for a bunch different devices. If you are looking for one image that supports multiple devices look for AOSP treble rom.

If you mean the XDA developers AOSP roms, then they are most definitely NOT pure AOSP - Those guys are incapable of just building a rom from AOSP without adding their own cruft. Not to mention that the XDA Developers site is impossible to navigate.

Lineage at least feels like a legit project. I can’t feel too sure downloading random ROMs (with closed-source additions) from XDA considering how shady the entire thing feels. 'jcs sums it up nicely: https://mobile.twitter.com/jcs/status/1069346105069092864

Re: LineageOS 16.0

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Post by kuon »

Jaruzel wrote: post #57
ascii_only wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's called AOSP. Community makes AOSP images for a bunch different devices. If you are looking for one image that supports multiple devices look for AOSP treble rom.

If you mean the XDA developers AOSP roms, then they are most definitely NOT pure AOSP - Those guys are incapable of just building a rom from AOSP without adding their own cruft. Not to mention that the XDA Developers site is impossible to navigate.

I have been a programmer/hacker for a long time, but the XDA dev forum is still some kind of obscure place I do not understand.

Also the tone is not very user friendly in general, I understand that when you post a rom you built you don't want to do support, but it can be pretty hostile.

Re: LineageOS 16.0

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Post by muks »

lsh wrote: post #31
Dunedan wrote: post #29

What's really a shame is that with each new version of LineageOS a lot of devices are dropped from being supported. I have some perfectly functioning devices (including a 2014 flagship device from Samsung), which will very likely stay stuck on LineageOS 14.1.

the new (and cheap) Xiaomi Note 5 Pro (Whyred) was dropped in October last year after about a year of support. I bought the phone specifically because it was supported. It sucks, but they depend on volunteers to keep the builds happening. There are plenty of unofficial builds now happening but nobody appears to have stepped up for official status. The phone was originally marketed to India and gets a lot of usage the…

Same device here (whyred). If you want an "original" build, you can still build an up-to-date Lineage OS with the latest Android security patches from source from their repo. It is very easy to build it on Fedora or Ubuntu and it doesn't take more than a few minutes to do updated builds once you do the first complete build.

Follow the build instructions: https://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/whyred/build

An additional thing you may have to do (on Fedora at least) is to export LANG=C.

You'll also need a vendor tree for whyred from somewhere, like your own phone or from a public repo such as this: https://github.com/Sweeto143/vendor_xiaomi_whyred/tree/oreo

(Getting the tree from an existing Lineage OS phone per the build instructions did not work for me.) Note that the latest version of whyred vendor tree for Android Oreo is from last year. I suspect this is because Xiaomi has moved on to Android Pie for whyred.

What all this gets for you is a build with the latest Android security patches applied (February 5, 2019 as of today).

Good luck. I can report that it builds and works well and it is straightforward to build it (more so for a programmer).

Re: LineageOS 16.0

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Post by paulcarroty »

Iolaum wrote: post #63
paulcarroty wrote: post #61

Why I switched out LineageOS: * privacy - LOS still use Google DNS and servers for internet checking, not sure about telemetry * app shutdown impossible without devtools * root access needs to flash another zip archive It's a paradox: I'm Linux user, but don't like Android.

Out of curiosity, did you switch to something that has those things, and if so what is it?

iphone then dumbphone.

Re: LineageOS 16.0

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Post by harshreality »

yjftsjthsd-h wrote: post #21
kbenson wrote: post #3

So, if I wanted to buy a good middle of the road (or even somewhat cheap) phone that has good LineageOS support, what would the community (of LineageOS or HN) recommend? I looked on /r/LineageOS and found some older posts (a year plus) that claim to give some insight on this. Those might still be fairly accurate, but the same conditions that would cause me to need a guide also mean I wouldn't know if one is still acc…

I'm quite fond of the Moto G or E lines; generally good support, easy to unlock the bootloader, and they're actually pretty decent hardware without being extensive.

Motorola has a nasty habit of leaving out NFC in many variants of their cheaper phones, including U.S. versions of the G6 and G7. This makes those generally unsuitable, at least in the U.S., if you care at all about NFC payments or NFC-based fido auth. It's can't be for market segmentation either, as many non-US variants of the same phones have NFC. The only explanation I can think of is that they're using chips binned with NFC disabled for some reason. (If it's cheaper, why is it mainly US variants that suffer? Wouldn't the cost of supporting multiple variants outweigh whatever trivial cost decrease they get by buying chips with nfc fused off?)

Re: LineageOS 16.0

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Post by paulcarroty »

commoner wrote: post #70
paulcarroty wrote: post #61

Why I switched out LineageOS: * privacy - LOS still use Google DNS and servers for internet checking, not sure about telemetry * app shutdown impossible without devtools * root access needs to flash another zip archive It's a paradox: I'm Linux user, but don't like Android.

With root access, you can change the server Android uses for checking internet connectivity: https://android.stackexchange.com/questions/134963/change-th... To override the default Google DNS, Cloudflare offers an app for their 1.1.1.1 DNS service. You can also use the VPN of your choice to override the default DNS server. Firefox for Android users have the additional option of setting the DNS over HTTPS server used…

Thanks for the links, maybe they will help someone. But IMHO time spending for the hacking doesn't worth it.
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