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This short talk by Steve Jobs communicates the same idea in a far more eloquent manner, IMO. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNYbcqyyj68 Edit: (long) transcript with minor edits by me: To me….marketing is about values. This is a very complicated world. It’s a very noisy world. And we’re not going to get a chance to get people to remember much about us. No company is! And so, we have to be really clear on what we want…

Ironically, the shoes that Steve Jobs wore along with his trademark jeans and black sweater were New Balance.

Steve Jobs wasn't an athlete nor did he aspire to be one. He was smart enough to know there are millions who do have those aspirations.

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What are we doing to ourselves? If you were in the market for a new pair of shoes, what would be the sensible thing to do to get the best pair? Would you look at the glitzy ads, or would you try to choose something that is durable and comfortable for its price? Would you compare celebrity endorsements or spec sheets? There's no one in their right mind who would say the right way to buy a computer is to look at advert…

'or would you try to choose something that is durable and comfortable'

'There's no one in their right mind who would say the right way to buy a computer is to look at advertisements. ...compare specs and functionality'

that's not how any of this works :)

in our minds we're perfectly logical units making deliberate choices based on carefully considered factors. in reality I pay $5.45 for blue bottle pour over coffee, in YETI coffee mug that best resembles my ruggedness.

in fact most people sacrifice specs and functionality and buy iPhones simply because of personality

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Social media seems to have created an environment where, more than ever, individuals apply the ideology of marketing to their entire lifestyle and thought process. You are your personal brand, and you must work to manipulate how others see you. The ad economy strives to turn everyone into an advertiser. Unfortunately, this philosophy of instrumentality is effective. How would we as a society put marketing back inside…

Yep. I tell people that Seth Godin won. Now everybody is doing whatever they can to create a tribe. Unfortunately, while this might have been a great marketing strategy five years ago, it doesn't scale -- and it makes a horrible mess out of dialectical conversation.

Which only works when there were just a few doing it. You could stand out when it was a little different.

When everyone does it like Apple, no one does, not even Apple. It ceases to have meaning or effect.

Re: Minimum Viable Personality (2011)

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This short talk by Steve Jobs communicates the same idea in a far more eloquent manner, IMO. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNYbcqyyj68 Edit: (long) transcript with minor edits by me: To me….marketing is about values. This is a very complicated world. It’s a very noisy world. And we’re not going to get a chance to get people to remember much about us. No company is! And so, we have to be really clear on what we want…

Simon Sinek talks about this too, and uses Apple as the example.

Start with why -- how great leaders inspire action https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4ZoJKF_VuA

Re: Minimum Viable Personality (2011)

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I love that marketing works, and that people want to believe in values, and will band together over those values.

However lately, I've felt that especially in the US, values -- or more accurately -- symbols of values have become more important than actual tangible outcomes or functional real achievements. For people as individuals and as groups.

I guess of course that I'm especially thinking about our politics and social emphases these days. And maybe it's just gotten slightly worse that you notice it, fueled by Instagram and sound bite technology. Maybe even the way we market products and companies (come for the values!) contributes to our political discourse.

Think about any movement out there at present -- MeToo, conservative agenda, liberal agenda, organic produce, gentrification, almost any major movement. If you really get into the issue, you find that the symbol of the thing is actually a very, very small almost non-representative case of the situation as a whole.

Immigrants are not invading in hordes. Men at work are not harassing every female employee. People are not trying to kick out elderly widows to turn the block into a shopping mall. They're all symbols of the most extreme cases, and we latch on to them because they're recognizable, inflammatory, and get us riled up to want to do something. As always the rare, incredible threat dominates our minds so much more than the mundane everyday threat.

But sometimes I think, a society needs to think about the whole and not the extreme cases. And give up being obsessed with achieving symbolic victory, and instead actual (minor, boring, incremental) achievements for the whole. That's much harder to get people inflamed to vote for.

The current climate is why we got tax breaks for a couple of billionaires at the expense of millions of people with mortgages. It's a symbol of someday when I'll be a millionaire! (Never going to happen, on average) . When did you last thank the policymaker who came up with the mortgage deduction, something that you take advantage of every day?

Your shoe is not going to make you a star athlete. An immigrant is not knocking on the door to take your job -- that was decided decades ago. For every policy you put in place to protect the imaginary elderly widow, you make it harder for 10 young people to have an affordable place to live.

Stop believing so much in symbols.

Re: Minimum Viable Personality (2011)

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Why is it bad? People (or companies) become aware of products that may solve their needs. Marketing does not mean "shut off your brain and buy our product" - it can simply be to raise awareness. You still need to do your own personal due diligence on any product or service you purchase.

>People (or companies) become aware of products that may solve their needs. Who doesn't know what Coca-Cola is? Who doesn't know what a Macbook is? Who doesn't know what Disney is? Who doesn't know that Ford makes trucks? Who doesn't know that Budweiser makes beer? You have a theoretical justification for advertisement. If you actually switch on your TV, you will see almost entirely advertisements for products you al…

> Who doesn't know what Coca-Cola is? Who doesn't know what a Macbook is? Who doesn't know what Disney is? Who doesn't know that Ford makes trucks? Who doesn't know that Budweiser makes beer?

from the vantage point of 2019, it seems obvious that these are well known brands that don't need to increase awareness of themselves. but they got to this position by making relatively good products and adeptly managing their brands over decades.

at this point, advertisements communicate brand values more than information about specific products, but I would argue this is actually helpful for the consumer in some cases.

if I'm on a tight budget and need a new computer, I already know not to waste time browsing apple or falcon-northwest products. if I'm a contractor and need a work truck, I'm not going to the porsche dealer. advertisements aren't going to help me choose between chevy and ford, but they can narrow down my search considerably. most ads communicate pretty clearly whether or not you are the target audience for a product, without spending hours comparing technical specs.

Re: Minimum Viable Personality (2011)

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This short talk by Steve Jobs communicates the same idea in a far more eloquent manner, IMO. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNYbcqyyj68 Edit: (long) transcript with minor edits by me: To me….marketing is about values. This is a very complicated world. It’s a very noisy world. And we’re not going to get a chance to get people to remember much about us. No company is! And so, we have to be really clear on what we want…

I think this is a great explanation for consumer products. We can't possibly research every product in our lives and so we take short cuts. Great advertising allows us to make a quick decision that we can feel good about (i.e. we believe we made the right choice).
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