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YouTube bans comments on all videos of children

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Re: YouTube bans comments on all videos of children

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Are they going to require an ID system so the age of everyone in the entire video can be verified? I guess 2/3 of YT vids will have comments disabled? What about all those super popular channels featuring family vacations? Not even documentaries can have comments?

I honestly don't believe that this headline is true, but if it is... Good opportunity for a YT competitor to spring up.

Re: YouTube bans comments on all videos of children

#502
If only they could develop some kind of machine learning AI tech that could make highly suspicious comments require approval.

I guess they just aren't sophisticated enough to do that... But I guess they must have AI that can identify kids in videos accurately (even 17 1/2 year olds).

Re: YouTube bans comments on all videos of children

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> This is not behavior we want from the few major building blocks of our modern life. It's YouTube. It isn't that important. Also, it is their product, so, yeah, they get to make all the rules.

YouTube is incredibly important to the median young person in modern society. It's where probably a quarter of all my own personal STEM knowledge comes from. In high school it might have as much as half. Like it or not, products like YouTube, Instagram, and Snapchat have become keystones in the lives of the younger generations.

Better use youtube-dl now before it gets worse ;)

Re: YouTube bans comments on all videos of children

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Not, not forced, but then I did say it was an absurd example. Slightly different qualitatively from my hypothetical: there are plenty of examples of unwanted speech appearing in places, and while they are not forced to actually read it, the "owners" of those places are unable to stop it. For example: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2019/feb/27/facebook-...

You still can set your page to private if i am not mistaken. And you are also not forced to use facebook in the first place. I understand that its unpleasant and annoying in public, but the assumption that someone elses free speech in a public place affects you personally whether you want it or not doesnt seem necessary true to me. While not so well worded, i do agree with the broad rational, that in order to restric…

> I know its annoying to be confronted with stuff you dont like, when your private life takes place in alot of public places, but that is your choice. You dont have to have a public facebook profile, you dont have to have a public youtube channel. And facebook and youtube as a whole dont have to be a public place if they decided otherwise.

Thank you for understanding and better expressing my core argument.

Re: YouTube bans comments on all videos of children

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> Youtube would, in essence, become the censor of what is and is not okay to post in the comments sections They can, that's enough reason. It's their lawn, they can do whatever they want. If you invite me into your house and I start yelling like crazy (because I have the right to), if you don't like it you would suggest me to get out (gently or not). You will be right. Who am I to complain about what I can or cannot…

Wait, so you're saying that if every company in the us wanted to ban videos of people that were gay they could because they dont have to allow them that they could. Yet we both know there would be a lawsuit so fast that your head would spin. Age is a protected class too. Children just dont happen to have their own lawyers as often and knowledge to use them in cases like this.

I was referring to publishing comments as the equivalent of free speech or freedom of expression, and not about denying participation and/or discrimination. Why going so far with the reasoning?

It's not Youtube's responsibility to protect anything, they just need to keep things barely legal. They are doing this because of the dollars and public image. Youtube owes us nothing, let alone guaranteeing our freedom of expression or protecting classes. If they say so, it's just PR.

Re: YouTube bans comments on all videos of children

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> YouTube content creators are now in the unenviable position where they need to actively moderate the comments section Why is that so wrong? I understand that it's often hard work. I understand that they might want to be making videos, or product-placing, or whatever it is any given creator wants to be doing, but they're the people at the hub of their own communities. They should have some responsibility over the co…

If youtube can determine when to delete a channel due to bad comments wouldn't they also be able to just delete the comments?

Sure, but getting people to keep their bedrooms clean serves as an additional metric for YouTube. You can see who's putting in the time and effort to keep things clean, as well as another metric to rate the content they're uploading.

If you upload videos of kids and you're sitting back and letting paedos write this weird shit, you probably shouldn't be making, let alone uploading videos of children.

Just as if your community has an above-average number of people calling for the lynching of Muslims. Or quacks suggesting you can cure cancer with alkali diet pills. You let this stuff stick on your videos, it sticks to you and that attracts more.

Pushing this onto the uploaders forces them to think about what they're doing, and whether or not they really want to build that community.

Re: YouTube bans comments on all videos of children

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I think that there's an element of validation and indoctrination that is a serious concern here. In addition to an overall significant lowering of the discourse around things by allowing garbage quality trolls and other horrible comments, and in addition to bullying, aggressive behavior, stalking, and other things that are broadly considered unpleasant, this kind of behavior breeds more of this behavior. Consider som…

This is one of the reasons I think anonymity on the Internet is a bad thing. Not that I am saying it should be banned, but it should not be the norm. Much of the toxicity simply would not happen, could be prosecuted, or could be filtered if a "real person" attribute was widely available.

The word you want is "impunity" not "anonymity". Because awful behaviour persists in actively de-anonymized contexts (eg: Facebook) when there's a power imbalance that puts society (or a local subset of it) on the side of the troll and against the victim.

Re: YouTube bans comments on all videos of children

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post #507

This the time for someone to make alternative platform that have different policy.

Oh yes, I imagine that a video site whose raison d'être is "we allow comments on videos of children" will be a real bastion of high-level discourse.
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