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Re: $35,000 Tesla Model 3 Available Now

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Post by fsloth »

Pristina wrote: post #475
gcbw2 wrote: post #177

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does it matter to the victim who is at fault? ...also, there's a $1,200 delivery fee. Is this the new "restock fee"? it is conveniently left out of the marketing materials.

>victim didn't realise being able to get a loan is a human right now.

It's not a human right, but being denied or briefly inconvenienced of financial services certainly for most people considered a downgrade in their capability to operate in a modern society. One of the big things that separate haves from have nots is the availability of financial services.

Re: $35,000 Tesla Model 3 Available Now

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Post by wccrawford »

elamje wrote: post #450

This thread is like politics - ignoring the amazing fact that an electric vehicle that can travel 220 miles is 35k (where many hybrids and other electric cars are way over that price point), to discuss the nuances of Tesla’s business model and how they market delivery fees etc. Comical. People 10 years ago would say WTF if they knew a high tech, all electric car with self driving ability was even remotely near 40k(in…

I'm not totally surprised that they're talking about the new business model so much, given what site we're on.

But my first thought was, "Wow! Should I trade in my car?"

And then, "Of course not. That'd be stupid. It's like 2 years old."

But man, had I known of this price drop, I might have waited and not bought my Mazda. (Which I love, but it isn't even a hybrid.)

Re: $35,000 Tesla Model 3 Available Now

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Post by alex_hitchins »

emiliobumachar wrote: post #586
chrisseaton wrote: post #397

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How else would you deliver a car? Not sure what point you're trying to make?

There's something intangible about being the first to drive a new car. Doesn't make any logical sense, but there is.

Surely all cars have been pre-driven, even if in the factory.

Re: $35,000 Tesla Model 3 Available Now

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1123581321 wrote: post #424
chrisseaton wrote: post #400

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Why would anyone want to negotiate individual line items rather than just negotiating on the final bottom-line price? Why would I care if I'm reducing the destination fee or the actual price? What difference does it make to me?

The line items usually come up when negotiating the final price. It’s hard to avoid discussing the details unless one party has a string negotiating position and highly values minimal communication. As to why you’d want to: if you ask someone to quote bottom line, and they do, then you can start picking their line items apart to go lower. Or if you quote high, you can use line items as justification for it to some bu…

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Re: $35,000 Tesla Model 3 Available Now

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Post by linkmotif »

chrisseaton wrote: post #428
1123581321 wrote: post #424

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The line items usually come up when negotiating the final price. It’s hard to avoid discussing the details unless one party has a string negotiating position and highly values minimal communication. As to why you’d want to: if you ask someone to quote bottom line, and they do, then you can start picking their line items apart to go lower. Or if you quote high, you can use line items as justification for it to some bu…

> then you can start picking their line items apart to go lower But why? If I want a lower price I don’t care where they have to shave it from to do that do I? I don’t care about how they’ve arrived at a price or how it’s accounted for if I just want it be lower. I say I want that price to be lower in order for me to buy and they say yes or no depending on if it’s worth it for them.

Life’s a stage and all the world is a play

Re: $35,000 Tesla Model 3 Available Now

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arbie wrote: post #449
chrisseaton wrote: post #434

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I don’t get it - asking ‘can you reduce line item n by x’ is exactly the same thing as ‘can you reduce the bottom line by x’, except the former asks them to do something they may not be able to do (that’s how this conversation started - the delivery fee) and the latter lets them achieve what you want any way they’re able to. So why would you ever use the former approach? It’s strictly worse.

This is the human factor at play.

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Re: $35,000 Tesla Model 3 Available Now

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Post by vgoh1 »

Tesla - love them or hate them, you have to admit, this move is bold, even borderline insane. I can't tell if this is going to save the company or wreck them, but I have to admire the balls of the leadership! At the end of the day, I think it's a pro-consumer move, provided Tesla allows independent re-sellers to cater to those who want a more traditional experience.

Re: $35,000 Tesla Model 3 Available Now

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Post by mgoetzke »

turtlegrids wrote: post #245
city41 wrote: post #221

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Cars have always had delivery fees. Delivering something that weighs several tons is not cheap.

It's cheaper to Tesla if they "deliver" it at their factory. I took delivery of my Tesla at the Fremont factory. was still forced to pay full delivery fee. insane.

Because everybody in a country pays the same price. Just because some people live near by the factory or want to make an event out of it doesn't mean they get it cheaper. I believe all car companies do this (I had to pay a delivery fee when I got my BMW at the factory). Not sure whether it is a law though.

Re: $35,000 Tesla Model 3 Available Now

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Post by Kurtz79 »

AdrianB1 wrote: post #184
BoorishBears wrote: post #136

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“Courageous” If anyone has ever had to cancel a car sale you’ll realize how much of a hassle it truely is to “return a car” Your credit report will show a loan even after it’s been cancelled for weeks. I once cancelled financing for a car due to it not being as described. Started looking for a new car and found it. Got denied for a loan because my score showed a 60k loan with 0 payments made. It took almost 2 months…

I would be happy to be given this chance in Europe, I would order right now, but at double the price and limited availability we have other problems to deal with.

Remember that US prices come without VAT and car imports from US have 10% tariff in EU.

Say, for Spain the price of the long range model is 59K€, if you remove taxes and after currency exchange the price comes to 47K$.

Add oversea shipping and the cost is not that much higher than the US.

https://insideevs.com/tesla-model-3-pricing-info-released-eu...

https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-model-3-long-range-325-miles...

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