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They probably just reset the miles to zero. No one would know.
That is illegal. https://www.dmv.org/vehicle-history/odometer-fraud.php
Chrysler got burned on this way back. “The pride is back and so is the odometer.”
$35,000 Tesla Model 3 Available Now
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Re: $35,000 Tesla Model 3 Available Now
#532Current Tesla Model X owner. Wanted to replace our other car (ICE) with an EV. Sat in the Model 3 for exactly 15 seconds before I said, "Nope!" Never warmed up to the whole "must hit GUI elements on an LCD with my finger while driving" thing Tesla has going on for almost anything you want to do: A/C, headlights, suspension height, whatever. Interior is still second-rate. Steering column adjustment was a joke. The int…
Current Model 3 owner, 15,000 miles. Never drove an X or I-PACE. I've never had more fun driving. The GUI is NBD in about an hour. It's roomy for me, even at 180 pounds. Looks like my range will go from 310 to 325 with a software upgrade. And it has built in emissions testing.
I've had the same experience. Loved my LD RWD enough to get a LD AWD.
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Any car has a delivery fee, around $500 in my state.
I’m curious to know where you are. I think it’s twice that where I am (California). Is this just another way for dealers in different states charge different prices, while maintaining some semblance of uniformity?
Perhaps instead of downvoting this honest question, you could let me know what you disagree with here?
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Yup, I was spending $400/mo on gas which is now close to $50/mo before you figure in oil change costs. Quite a few cars/trucks run synthetic these days which can really start adding up.
Not really. Oil changes (in a car comparable in size to Model 3) cost me about 50 USD per 25000 km, or 15000 mi, indeed because the oil is synthetic and fulfills certain criteria. In any case it's a rather insignificant amount compared to fuel costs, especially with fuel taxes as they are. If oil change costs start to add up, there's a significant possibility of you doing something wrong (including the choice of vehi…
But isn't it weird to just compare it to fuel costs and declare it's an insignificant amount? It's still 50 bucks.
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I don't think they currently had to do this, they have just started delivery in Europe and China and there is significant demand for the higher priced models so that they could continue to do this. I see it more as them wanting to show again that they could build up a huge order backlog as that something that pretty much no other car company can do. That would help them with the market and potential future loans.
Demand has collapsed in the US for model 3 and looks incredibly weak in Europe and China at this point. There is no reason for this across the board price cut other than weak demand.
Lol. Best selling electric car in world last year with heaps of momentum that just got cheaper. Doesn't appear to be collapsing to me.
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I always thought it was weird that we negotiate a price with new car purchases. I do negotiate hard on my cars (and on behalf of family) and I hate the process. It's stupid. I'd much rather the manufacturer nominate a fixed price and not allow any negotiation at all. Then the manufacturer would be forced to pick a price that competes with the market. There are only a few things that excite me more about a Model 3 tha…
There are no haggle dealers and have been no haggle brands from time to time. One problem is that the people who like and think of themselves as driving a hard bargain don’t like the inability to do so
Those that truly do know how to work the system should be able to get a better deal. Subsidized of course by those who are not good at it. Or who don't care.
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#537Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't think they currently had to do this, they have just started delivery in Europe and China and there is significant demand for the higher priced models so that they could continue to do this. I see it more as them wanting to show again that they could build up a huge order backlog as that something that pretty much no other car company can do. That would help them with the market and potential future loans.
Demand has collapsed in the US for model 3 and looks incredibly weak in Europe and China at this point. There is no reason for this across the board price cut other than weak demand.
I think so. Model3 used to have 300k backlog and now you can get one in 2 weeks?!
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#538Interesting to point out that the $35k is the full price, which goes down when additional discounts are applied. If you get the short range model with no options, it starts out at $35k, then goes down all the way to $24,950 after including the $3,750 Federal tax credit, $2,000 New York EV rebate (clearly it's geolocating by IP address here), and "$4,300 estimated 6 year gas savings". OK, so that last bit is BS, and i…
Including the estimated gas savings is extremely misleading. I want to know how much the car will cost upfront, not how much I will save over some number of years. And how do they determine the savings? If I am cross-shopping with a Chevy bolt, there won't be any gas savings... Surprised they put that on their, it really negatively impact my view of Tesla.
They are underplaying this aspect of saving on the petrol. If we were in 1973 then it would be different, in today's world we are a Trump brain-fart away from a 1973 situation, for instance in Venezuela and what would happen if the Chinese and Russians decided 'we aren't playing any more'?
Sure the U.S. is now god-blessed with the fracking miracle but the gas savings is also an option to be independent of the big oil companies. That could be worth more than $$$ to prepper-mentality Americans.
The prices didn't even go up that much in 1973 but a lot of queues and rationing went on. The 55 mph speed limit came in. It was not happy times.
If Tesla were a bit more frank they would mention this independence aspect, as it is they don't want to scare the children. Nobody knows what petrol prices will be next month so there is no way anyone can put a figure on savings. That said there are plenty of people who have swapped to Tesla and have the electricity bills to prove that the advertised savings are real.
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Eligibility for tax credits is unaffected by witholding rates or how large your end-of-year refund or liability is. And anyone who can afford a Tesla is sure to be paying enough income tax to get the full value of the EV credit.
I love being told how taxes work by people on the internet.... I do this for a living. I have plenty of clients who saw little to no benefit from the EV credit because their tax liability was not large enough.
Shouldn’t you have shown them how to incur a liability (retirement account conversions) then so they didn’t lose out on an otherwise non refundable credit?