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Re: $35,000 Tesla Model 3 Available Now

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Post by smolsky »

sethammons wrote: post #147
BenoitEssiambre wrote: post #37

"To achieve these prices while remaining financially sustainable, Tesla is shifting sales worldwide to online only. You can now buy a Tesla in North America via your phone in about 1 minute, and that capability will soon be extended worldwide. We are also making it much easier to try out and return a Tesla, so that a test drive prior to purchase isn’t needed. You can now return a car within 7 days or 1,000 miles for…

I would never buy something without a test drive. No level of return policy will be good enough.

Yeah, I hear you.

Yet all you (we) need to do is find a friend/colleague with a Model 3 and go to lunch/test-drive together. In fact, I would value my friend's frank opinion over a slimy car salesman's one.

Re: $35,000 Tesla Model 3 Available Now

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Post by thetinguy »

brianwawok wrote: post #271
BoorishBears wrote: post #251

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I drove a Model S. None of my cars is a Model S. I remember the “salesperson” talking about how quiet it was as wind noise whistled through the cabin like we were in a Corolla. The A4 I was driving at the time was immensely quieter at highway speeds but I nodded and played along. I’m convinced the aspirational status of Teslas means people who haven’t experienced actual luxury vechicles are buying into the hype that…

Though a model 3 does not compete with an A4, it competes with a Honda Civic or similar...

No the Tesla 3 does not compete with cars that can be had for 20k. The closest things to civics are the leaf and bolt.

Re: $35,000 Tesla Model 3 Available Now

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Post by BoorishBears »

brianwawok wrote: post #271
BoorishBears wrote: post #251

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I drove a Model S. None of my cars is a Model S. I remember the “salesperson” talking about how quiet it was as wind noise whistled through the cabin like we were in a Corolla. The A4 I was driving at the time was immensely quieter at highway speeds but I nodded and played along. I’m convinced the aspirational status of Teslas means people who haven’t experienced actual luxury vechicles are buying into the hype that…

Though a model 3 does not compete with an A4, it competes with a Honda Civic or similar...

It was a Model S we were in

And even so, the comparison of Teslas to other cars just highlight the absurdity of their MSRPs relative to the luxury they deliver.

I’m assuming you mean Model 3 is the size of a Civic or similar so it competes with them.

I mean technically sure, but the pricing doesn’t reflect that!

Until today it cost as much as an A4 at A3 levels of room, and honestly maybe not even A3 levels of luxury.

Now you can pay for a Model 3 with no heated seats for a price that no “normal” Civic reaches.

I mean it ties with a Type R! That’s a sports car that you might compare to a what, 60k Model 3 Performance trim?

Re: $35,000 Tesla Model 3 Available Now

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Post by umeshunni »

camjohnson26 wrote: post #253
nickik wrote: post #208

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I don't think they currently had to do this, they have just started delivery in Europe and China and there is significant demand for the higher priced models so that they could continue to do this. I see it more as them wanting to show again that they could build up a huge order backlog as that something that pretty much no other car company can do. That would help them with the market and potential future loans.

Demand has collapsed in the US for model 3 and looks incredibly weak in Europe and China at this point. There is no reason for this across the board price cut other than weak demand.

> Demand has collapsed in the US for model 3 and looks incredibly weak in Europe and China

[citation needed]

Driving up 101 daily, I see truck after truck loaded with European-specced Model 3s heading towards the port of San Francisco.

Re: $35,000 Tesla Model 3 Available Now

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Post by cmmartin »

irq wrote: post #276
hutzlibu wrote: post #265

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"In summary, Tesla is essentially saying “you can’t test drive it but if you don’t like it you can cancel your car search for a few months and ding your credit score for nothing”" Where do they say that? On the site is a big "Test drive" button which goes to https://www.tesla.com/drive which, I asume, will let me test drive a Tesla. Without Buying.

You won’t be able to test drive _the specific car you are buying_ before committing to purchasing it. You’d only be able to test drive another instance of that model, but not the specific one you’d be committing to for X years. This deprives you of the ability to, e.g., avoid purchasing a particular instance of a vehicle that has some annoying defect or flaw.

Defects and flaws will be repaired for free though

Re: $35,000 Tesla Model 3 Available Now

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Post by pcurve »

elipsey wrote: post #196
pcurve wrote: post #171

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I don't think anyone will actually buy $35k model. They made it so undesirable that it's almost laughable. Reminds me of 2004 Honda Accord DX model with $16995 with roll-up manual windows, plastic hub caps and manual tranny that hardly anyone bought. Most will opt for $40k premium model. Though 37k is much better value, it's missing the core features that tickle fancy of Tesla buyers. Standard Interior Includes: Manu…

I drove a couple of Hondas like that, and I kind of liked them. Ever try replacing a window motor? :)

Old Civic DX, CX, back in the days when they put double wishbone suspension on them.

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Post by natch »

BoorishBears wrote: post #251
natch wrote: post #191

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Once you drive it, you are not going to want to return it, so all this is moot for most people.

I drove a Model S. None of my cars is a Model S. I remember the “salesperson” talking about how quiet it was as wind noise whistled through the cabin like we were in a Corolla. The A4 I was driving at the time was immensely quieter at highway speeds but I nodded and played along. I’m convinced the aspirational status of Teslas means people who haven’t experienced actual luxury vechicles are buying into the hype that…

What year of Model S did you test drive?

Re: $35,000 Tesla Model 3 Available Now

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Post by chc »

alasdair_ wrote: post #282
BoorishBears wrote: post #277

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They're closing their stores... When I requested a test drive in a state with no dealerships I was directed to a store out of state. These stores will no longer exist. The messaging is also very clear, sometimes it’s ok to read between the lines... We’re closing stores where you test drive + we’re pushing returns hard in the marketing = we want to move past test drives This is a new annocument, other parts of the sit…

>They're closing their stores... Does this include their dealerships? There are plenty of dealerships that offer test drives. EDIT: I assumed that the "stores" were the places in malls etc. that don't have (say) a whole bunch of machinery for the service center etc.

Tesla doesn't have "dealerships" (which are not owned by the manufacturer), only "stores." The places you're thinking of are the places they're closing. Apparently they will keep some of them open, but they will be considered "galleries" rather than actually selling anything.

Re: $35,000 Tesla Model 3 Available Now

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Post by artursapek »

tedivm wrote: post #243
artursapek wrote: post #213

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Rent it for a couple days on Turo. I did that recently with a Model 3 just to try it out.

So now we have to pay for test drives?

It's more than a 20 minute test drive. You get to keep the car for a while, park it, load/unload it, try out car seats in it, etc. It is very informative compared to a dealership test drive.

Re: $35,000 Tesla Model 3 Available Now

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Post by BoorishBears »

alasdair_ wrote: post #282
BoorishBears wrote: post #277

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They're closing their stores... When I requested a test drive in a state with no dealerships I was directed to a store out of state. These stores will no longer exist. The messaging is also very clear, sometimes it’s ok to read between the lines... We’re closing stores where you test drive + we’re pushing returns hard in the marketing = we want to move past test drives This is a new annocument, other parts of the sit…

>They're closing their stores... Does this include their dealerships? There are plenty of dealerships that offer test drives. EDIT: I assumed that the "stores" were the places in malls etc. that don't have (say) a whole bunch of machinery for the service center etc.

Tesla only has stores. Even in the states that even let them have that much.

Their “dealerships” don’t sell you a car, you just get handed off to the website

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