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Re: $35,000 Tesla Model 3 Available Now

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Post by natch »

microcolonel wrote: post #121
natch wrote: post #89

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Those were problems with some early deliveries. Things have improved a lot over time.

> Things have improved a lot over time. I'm going by what I've seen of people receiving orders in the last few months, over what time has it improved? If you buy one now, will the fitment compare to (for example) GM by the time it is delivered? How likely is the paint to be scratched all the way through to the base coat on delivery? I want to believe that they can make these things right, but honestly I can not have…

There are a lot of haters and short sellers out there and they can be especially vocal, so I’d just say take what you’ve seen online with a grain of salt.

Re: $35,000 Tesla Model 3 Available Now

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Post by gamblor956 »

natch wrote: post #191
BoorishBears wrote: post #176

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I think they both deserve credit, in reality returning a 30 thousand dollar object is never going to be smooth. The finance has already written you a check, they’ve already done all this leg work. You’ve already driven it, if you’re purchasing it in earnest you might have already invested in charging infrastructure for your home, a whole laundry list of friction. Then there’s what happens to the car you returned. I w…

Once you drive it, you are not going to want to return it, so all this is moot for most people.

One of the reasons I will likely never own a Tesla is because I have driven all of them...including the limited edition Roadster (courtesy of an old boss that liked collecting fast, shiny things). Other than the impressive acceleration, the handling and ride other ride tangibles of every Tesla model is below-average for both its price point and its class.

Re: $35,000 Tesla Model 3 Available Now

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Post by [deleted] »

Dylan16807 wrote: post #153
BoorishBears wrote: post #136

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“Courageous” If anyone has ever had to cancel a car sale you’ll realize how much of a hassle it truely is to “return a car” Your credit report will show a loan even after it’s been cancelled for weeks. I once cancelled financing for a car due to it not being as described. Started looking for a new car and found it. Got denied for a loan because my score showed a 60k loan with 0 payments made. It took almost 2 months…

This is very good advice to keep in mind, but it's not Tesla's fault if the credit reporting agencies are terrible.

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Re: $35,000 Tesla Model 3 Available Now

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Post by mrfusion »

Why not close the stores and get creative with the test drives?

Pay existing owners a small fee to let prospective buyers drive their car. Have an app to coordinate.

Or have tesla employees bring out a bunch of cars to a Walmart parking lot every Saturday.

It doesn’t seem like you need expensive retail space just to cordinate test drives.

Re: $35,000 Tesla Model 3 Available Now

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Post by hutzlibu »

BoorishBears wrote: post #136
BenoitEssiambre wrote: post #37

"To achieve these prices while remaining financially sustainable, Tesla is shifting sales worldwide to online only. You can now buy a Tesla in North America via your phone in about 1 minute, and that capability will soon be extended worldwide. We are also making it much easier to try out and return a Tesla, so that a test drive prior to purchase isn’t needed. You can now return a car within 7 days or 1,000 miles for…

“Courageous” If anyone has ever had to cancel a car sale you’ll realize how much of a hassle it truely is to “return a car” Your credit report will show a loan even after it’s been cancelled for weeks. I once cancelled financing for a car due to it not being as described. Started looking for a new car and found it. Got denied for a loan because my score showed a 60k loan with 0 payments made. It took almost 2 months…

"In summary, Tesla is essentially saying “you can’t test drive it but if you don’t like it you can cancel your car search for a few months and ding your credit score for nothing”"

Where do they say that? On the site is a big "Test drive" button which goes to https://www.tesla.com/drive which, I asume, will let me test drive a Tesla. Without Buying.

Re: $35,000 Tesla Model 3 Available Now

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Post by xienze »

dmode wrote: post #161
xienze wrote: post #104

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> Moreover, the 3 now costs less to own than Accords or Camry's Over what time period? The $35k Tesla is the base model, and a base Accord looks to be $23k. And you can probably negotiate that down a little, which I doubt you can do with Tesla. That price difference buys you a _lot_ of gas.

3 can get up to 7K in state + Fed tax credits

Which are capped at the amount of your tax liability. So unless you owe $7k in taxes, you’re not getting the full credit. And the federal tax credit is going down to $1875 later this year.

It’s not exactly the same as a price cut.

Re: $35,000 Tesla Model 3 Available Now

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Post by sriram_sun »

gamblor956 wrote: post #260
city41 wrote: post #221

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Cars have always had delivery fees. Delivering something that weighs several tons is not cheap.

I have never once paid a delivery fee for a new car. I do not know anyone who has bought a non-luxury car that has paid a delivery fee for a car. OTOH, I do know many people who paid delivery fees for customized luxury cars. The $35k Model 3, however, is not a luxury car and is barely customizable, even to the extent of available add-on packages.

Oh yes you have. Every dealer everywhere charges a "Destination Fee." That is what you pay for delivery to the dealer's. That line item for the price of the car is non-negotiable. There is wiggle room on MSRP etc.

This was the first google result that came up for "car destination fee" :- A "destination charge" is a fee that the manufacturer charges to deliver a vehicle from the factory to the dealership, and that is passed on by the dealer to the consumer; it is not included in the MSRP of the vehicle. Destination charges are typically not negotiable.

Re: $35,000 Tesla Model 3 Available Now

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Post by camjohnson26 »

bdcravens wrote: post #17
aerovistae wrote: post #12

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Sorry, your phrasing seems to imply it isn’t, or am I misunderstanding you?

The point being that there was anticipation of something bigger, not finally following through on what was promised previously.

Nice distraction from the SEC’s request for a contempt of court ruling though.

Re: $35,000 Tesla Model 3 Available Now

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Post by sokoloff »

throwaway2016a wrote: post #255
beaner wrote: post #244

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If you wait for everything to get cheaper or better, you'll never get anything, cuz likely there's always something better coming next year. I think when making purchases, it's helpful to be able to ask "is this a fair trade for me right now?" If it's no, don't get it. If it's yes, then when you complain to yourself or feel that you've been treated unfairly, the 2nd voice in your head should be saying "this was a fai…

I understand that but we're talking three months here and a 20% drop in price for an identical product. This is not like a new iPhone. I owe the bank more than the car is worth NEW. Or close to it.[0] So effectively, Tesla has tanked the resale value of the asset. So the $3000 isn't even the half of it. I am now also depreciated by that much more. [0] I haven't done the math, I may be be slightly bellow by a few hund…

Unless you made a particularly large downpayment, you were probably already underwater on the loan. That's extremely common for the first 1/3-1/2 of the loan period on nearly any car.

Re: $35,000 Tesla Model 3 Available Now

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Post by havermeyer »

BoorishBears wrote: post #136
BenoitEssiambre wrote: post #37

"To achieve these prices while remaining financially sustainable, Tesla is shifting sales worldwide to online only. You can now buy a Tesla in North America via your phone in about 1 minute, and that capability will soon be extended worldwide. We are also making it much easier to try out and return a Tesla, so that a test drive prior to purchase isn’t needed. You can now return a car within 7 days or 1,000 miles for…

“Courageous” If anyone has ever had to cancel a car sale you’ll realize how much of a hassle it truely is to “return a car” Your credit report will show a loan even after it’s been cancelled for weeks. I once cancelled financing for a car due to it not being as described. Started looking for a new car and found it. Got denied for a loan because my score showed a 60k loan with 0 payments made. It took almost 2 months…

This recent article makes it sound like it can be a nightmare to get your money back, too: https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2019/02/21/tesla-refund-and-return-...
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