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Re: $35,000 Tesla Model 3 Available Now

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Moreover, the 3 now costs less to own than Accords or Camry's, about the same as a Corolla. 1,000,000 of those 3 (combined) were sold in 2018. That's huge.

> Moreover, the 3 now costs less to own than Accords or Camry's Over what time period? The $35k Tesla is the base model, and a base Accord looks to be $23k. And you can probably negotiate that down a little, which I doubt you can do with Tesla. That price difference buys you a _lot_ of gas.

3 can get up to 7K in state + Fed tax credits

Re: $35,000 Tesla Model 3 Available Now

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Legit: https://www.theverge.com/2019/2/28/18245165/tesla-model-3-pr... New Prices Cheap Interior Standard Range (220mi) - $35k Partial Premium Interior Standard Range Plus (240mi) - $37k Premium Interiors Mid Range (264mi) - $40k Long Range (325mi) - $43k Dual Motor Long Range (310mi) - $47k Dual Motor Performance (310mi) - $58k

So presumably they are hoping many $35k buyers will be tempted by the $37k which presumably has a better margin for Tesla

Especially if the range limit continues to be imposed only by the car's software.

Re: $35,000 Tesla Model 3 Available Now

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"To achieve these prices while remaining financially sustainable, Tesla is shifting sales worldwide to online only. You can now buy a Tesla in North America via your phone in about 1 minute, and that capability will soon be extended worldwide. We are also making it much easier to try out and return a Tesla, so that a test drive prior to purchase isn’t needed. You can now return a car within 7 days or 1,000 miles for…

I would never buy something without a test drive. No level of return policy will be good enough.

Does saving $2,100 help?

Re: $35,000 Tesla Model 3 Available Now

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Interesting to point out that the $35k is the full price, which goes down when additional discounts are applied. If you get the short range model with no options, it starts out at $35k, then goes down all the way to $24,950 after including the $3,750 Federal tax credit, $2,000 New York EV rebate (clearly it's geolocating by IP address here), and "$4,300 estimated 6 year gas savings". OK, so that last bit is BS, and i…

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Re: $35,000 Tesla Model 3 Available Now

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"To achieve these prices while remaining financially sustainable, Tesla is shifting sales worldwide to online only. You can now buy a Tesla in North America via your phone in about 1 minute, and that capability will soon be extended worldwide. We are also making it much easier to try out and return a Tesla, so that a test drive prior to purchase isn’t needed. You can now return a car within 7 days or 1,000 miles for…

“Courageous” If anyone has ever had to cancel a car sale you’ll realize how much of a hassle it truely is to “return a car” Your credit report will show a loan even after it’s been cancelled for weeks. I once cancelled financing for a car due to it not being as described. Started looking for a new car and found it. Got denied for a loan because my score showed a 60k loan with 0 payments made. It took almost 2 months…

Were you denied a loan from the same institution that issued the first one? I can't imagine a credit union turning down the same customer they just approved because 'computer says no.'

I'm not sure that Tesla is saying you can't test drive it. There are other ways to evangelize the car and let people test drive it, ones that don't involve massive rents in premium retail spaces. Toyota brings the Mirai to my local Farmers Market, for example.

They could easily organize such events for the Teslas.

Re: $35,000 Tesla Model 3 Available Now

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I wish they would hire the interior controls engineer that worked on the 8th gen. Mazda Protege. Simple, elegant, and ergonomic. That giant iPhone in the middle of the Tesla 3 puts a crick in my neck just from looking at the pictures.

The giant ipad is fine for people who don't want to drive, but for people who enjoy driving, an immersive experience is important.

I think the people who want the performance version should get a dashboard, or the option of one. I'll bet a $3000 optional dashboard would sell like hotcackes.

Re: $35,000 Tesla Model 3 Available Now

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The gas savings is definitely shady. But including the federal tax credits and destination fee is fair I think. As far as I'm aware, no auto maker includes the destination/docs/handling fee in the MSRP. The Tesla fee amount is comparable to other automakers also (it's on the high side at $1,200; but it's not too different from Toyota's $930 and Honda's $920). Presuming your location due to geolocation is a bit too fa…

It's annoying that they don't make it more clear that's what they are doing, but the gas saving is a real thing. I used to spent $120 a month on gas, that went to $45 a month of electricity, then I got on a Time of Use plan where electricity is cheaper at night and now my monthly "fuel" cost is $15.

The point is that's amortized over the lifetime of the car though, and isn't an up front savings like a lower cost would be. If you're taking out a 6 year auto loan then it's the same effect, but if you're taking out a shorter loan or paying cash it's not.

Re: $35,000 Tesla Model 3 Available Now

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post #141

I wish they would hire the interior controls engineer that worked on the 8th gen. Mazda Protege. Simple, elegant, and ergonomic. That giant iPhone in the middle of the Tesla 3 puts a crick in my neck just from looking at the pictures.

But buy one and you will actually love it every day, says this TM3 owner.

I would probably like this one better:

https://www.stoddard.com/media/catalog/category/IMG_1365.jpg

Early 911 interior.

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