I'd like them to take a look at predatory selling of merchandise to children next.
You know they're an advertising company? Unless you're offering ways to improve their predation on consumers I can't imagine they'd care to hear what you have to say.
YouTube bans comments on all videos of children
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Re: YouTube bans comments on all videos of children
#112The fact that Google is ceding the fight against toxic comments on YouTube is actually pretty shocking. In a company that knows more about you than you can possibly imagine, and more about automated sentiment analysis than anyone in the world, they couldn’t algorithmically determine who should be allowed to post on certain subsets of videos, or devise a system they thought was worth deploying to ensure comments meet…
I can't think of having ever seen a comment on YouTube that made the commenting feature seem worthwhile.
I watch lots of hobbyist how-to videos and the comments are usually pretty nice. At the very least they are some human engagement from the views to the author, without which making/posting videos would seem pretty lonely.
Re: YouTube bans comments on all videos of children
#113The fact that Google is ceding the fight against toxic comments on YouTube is actually pretty shocking. In a company that knows more about you than you can possibly imagine, and more about automated sentiment analysis than anyone in the world, they couldn’t algorithmically determine who should be allowed to post on certain subsets of videos, or devise a system they thought was worth deploying to ensure comments meet…
It’s important to note they’re ceding a fight they never even seriously attempted to engage in where comments and content are concerned. As with all things Google and YT, if it can’t be badly automated, they’d rather kill it than set the precedent of doing anything useful. The short term result will be attention moving on. The long term is building up pressure that will probably result in major regulation. I wouldn’t…
"If your company has a platform that is beyond your capacity to manage responsibily, then your platform needs to shrink, or be chopped up. "
This is how I feel about fake new too. It's not exactly what you said, but if your business can't afford to moderate what spews out of it, then adjust your business or shut down.
Re: YouTube bans comments on all videos of children
#114Earlier quoted context omitted.
The ramifications of this are profound, at least: - shake the money stick at them and they will dance (thanks, of all people, Nestle!) - they've admitted a serious problem exists that they were unwilling to deal with until external pressure forced them to (i.e. they can't be trusted to self regulate) - they've all but admitted they can't fix this in reasonable time, if at all This is the first time I can think of whe…
I, for one, do not want Google deciding what is true.
God forbid they put a link to Wikipedia under flat earth videos, huh?
Re: YouTube bans comments on all videos of children
#115Earlier quoted context omitted.
A Google search was not sufficient in that case. The guy's employer tipped them off after firing him - it wasn't some sort of automated keyword monitoring at Google. https://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2013/08/governm...
The search alone wasn't sufficient, but was enough to start it all. In YouTube's cases, there are plenty of comments that demonstrate someone is a sexual predator. In my view, if someone "tipped them off", it would be the exact same scenario.
"A random person on the internet is posting creepy comments" is likely not probable cause, especially as you'd have to convince someone national like the FBI to care without a specific location.
"Someone I know personally is posting creepy comments, and I've always gotten a bad vibe about their interactions with kids" is probably enough to get local cops interested enough to knock on a door.
Re: YouTube bans comments on all videos of children
#116It seems to me that yt could've implemented the perfect honey trap for pedos.
Make an inappropriate remark on children and (being Google), track you down using a variety of fingerprinting techniques and report you directly to the appropriate authorities of that country. The latter part could probably even be automated.
And yet, they've taken this stance: one that puts the onus on the content creators themselves to moderate the comments. Unfortunately, the pedos are still out there, being predators.
Re: YouTube bans comments on all videos of children
#117Chris Ulmer, who runs the popular YouTube channel Special Books for Special Kids, said that comments were removed from his channel despite no evidence of unacceptable comments, and YouTube told him that if he turned comments back on, he risked his channel being deleted. [EDIT: Turns out, this is not actually the case. See child comments.] https://twitter.com/chrisulmer/status/1099366622329036801 "Last night I realize…
On any popular video or channel the comments have always been a cesspool of hate and evil. I am glad that YouTube is finally trying to do _something_ about it, but it also seems really shitty that it took pedophiles to instigate an advertiser boycott and get them to act.
Pedophiles are just the proverbial "Straw that broke the camel's back."
Advertisers have always been agitating, often behind the scenes, that their ads not show up on certain channels. It's just that now that there are all these code words, out and out brazenness, and what not that undesirable people use to have their conversations on otherwise innocuous channels, the advertisers are really starting to put their collective foot down.
This really is an "existential" level threat for YT. I understand the urgency. I'm just wondering if there is a better way to accomplish the same goal? Is there a way to, more directly, target undesirables?
Re: YouTube bans comments on all videos of children
#118Chris Ulmer, who runs the popular YouTube channel Special Books for Special Kids, said that comments were removed from his channel despite no evidence of unacceptable comments, and YouTube told him that if he turned comments back on, he risked his channel being deleted. [EDIT: Turns out, this is not actually the case. See child comments.] https://twitter.com/chrisulmer/status/1099366622329036801 "Last night I realize…
> See child comments.
But YouTube won't let me
Re: YouTube bans comments on all videos of children
#119The fact that Google is ceding the fight against toxic comments on YouTube is actually pretty shocking. In a company that knows more about you than you can possibly imagine, and more about automated sentiment analysis than anyone in the world, they couldn’t algorithmically determine who should be allowed to post on certain subsets of videos, or devise a system they thought was worth deploying to ensure comments meet…
You think they're doing this manually? There's probably some human supervision, but this is actually a failure of their algorithms.
Re: YouTube bans comments on all videos of children
#120Earlier quoted context omitted.
Sadly, you are probably right.
> Sadly, you are probably right. Are you sad that viewing the content in question isn't harmful? Or that it isn't illegal? Or that YouTube—Google, IOW—can’t unilaterally imprison people whose behavior it disapproves of?
Both of your statements.
It's probably out of their legal authority and the act of watching a video is obviously not illegal nor harmful to anyone.
But that's is a very simplistic view of the situation.