Not only there are multiple plugins that do this now, this is something that was explored by Google itself back in 2009 with Google Sidewiki[1]. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Sidewiki
But how many of those solutions work as well as Dissenter? Do any of them hold a strong position on free speech? Edit: I was genuinely asking because I had not heard of similar solutions prior to today. But go ahead and keep downvoting me. That'll teach me to engage in honest conversation.
Does Gab hold a strong position on free speech, or freedom for a particular form of speech?
Those aren't the same thing, after all. The echo chambers of self-described dissenters often seem little different than those they claim to dissent against.
> Free speech is about ideas, not being a dick. You want to personally try to have civilized discussions where you resolve thorny issues that people are passionate about, and may hold utterly objectionable views about. Any given person should do that even if only from self-interest; why waste your life trolling? The entire Gab application promotes an intellectual sewer, and that's because its business model (same as…
I'm not that worried about protecting the rights of people to abridge the rights of others, since they're demanding a double standard. Specifically I mean people who say groups of people should suffer a loss of rights due to some perceived inherent defect as opposed to behavior.
What rights have been lost or abridged here? We're in a thread about a site that Gab launched in order to express itself, and they seem to be expressing themselves freely.
And people object to their behavior, specifically their political ideology. I don't think anyone has mentioned "inherent defects," whatever those would be.
Someone right-clicked a link from a Google search results page.
Oops. That's what I get for not using DuckDuckGo for this. Also I found it interesting that the CNET was the best non-Breitbart source for this announcement....I found it interesting that no other tech site seemed to even mention it yet.
Is it really even worth mentioning? It's a literal plea for attention from a group of white guys shouting at clouds about how the unfair world is oppressing them. The technology has been done before and better.
But how many of those solutions work as well as Dissenter? Do any of them hold a strong position on free speech? Edit: I was genuinely asking because I had not heard of similar solutions prior to today. But go ahead and keep downvoting me. That'll teach me to engage in honest conversation.
Does Gab hold a strong position on free speech, or freedom for a particular form of speech? Those aren't the same thing, after all. The echo chambers of self-described dissenters often seem little different than those they claim to dissent against.
You both lost me. Gab's position on free speech is pretty simple. If it's legal in the US (where Gab is located), then it won't be censored. If people don't like what you say, they may mute you as individuals, but no one will limit or ban you from posting.
But how many of those solutions work as well as Dissenter? Do any of them hold a strong position on free speech? Edit: I was genuinely asking because I had not heard of similar solutions prior to today. But go ahead and keep downvoting me. That'll teach me to engage in honest conversation.
Does Gab hold a strong position on free speech, or freedom for a particular form of speech? Those aren't the same thing, after all. The echo chambers of self-described dissenters often seem little different than those they claim to dissent against.
I’ve not heard of anyone banned from the platform for legal speech of any kind.
It’s sad that it’s associated with a political faction, though Torba’s statements make it clear why. Gab actually has (or had, it’s been over a year since I logged on to it) far superior stream filtering tools to Twitter.
This is an excellent idea. All of those Gab types can go and shout at each other over there, and the rest of the world can ignore them. Everybody wins.
The Google Toolbar project had a feature called "sidewiki" that did the same thing. https://searchengineland.com/google-sidewiki-allows-anyone-t... It got dropped in 2011, sayeth Wikipedia; criticism included that it pulled control of comments away from a site publisher and gave that content (and data) to Google.
If it was dropped in 2011, I suspect the criticism also included the fact that every site in the world starting having their own comments section, rendering the thing kind of pointless.
...which a large number of them subsequently dropped for a multitude of reasons, varying from the deluge of spammy comments to the desire to keep unwanted opinions off the site. A universal non-censored and politically neutral comment section would actually be a good thing if only it could be kept from turning into a shit-fest. How the latter can be achieved without ending up with censorship in one way or another is a question which thus far has not been answered anywhere on the 'net.
If it was dropped in 2011, I suspect the criticism also included the fact that every site in the world starting having their own comments section, rendering the thing kind of pointless.
...which a large number of them subsequently dropped for a multitude of reasons, varying from the deluge of spammy comments to the desire to keep unwanted opinions off the site. A universal non-censored and politically neutral comment section would actually be a good thing if only it could be kept from turning into a shit-fest. How the latter can be achieved without ending up with censorship in one way or another is…
I'd posit the extreme likelihood that "uncensored" and "not a shit-fest", as time approaches infinity, are mutually exclusive.
"Shit flows downhill," as it were. If some sites are kicking people off who (however one chooses to measure the concept) "diminish the tone" of the site, and some sites are not, it stands to reason the sites that do not will end up collecting the sort of comments that "diminish the tone" over time.
...which a large number of them subsequently dropped for a multitude of reasons, varying from the deluge of spammy comments to the desire to keep unwanted opinions off the site. A universal non-censored and politically neutral comment section would actually be a good thing if only it could be kept from turning into a shit-fest. How the latter can be achieved without ending up with censorship in one way or another is…
I'd posit the extreme likelihood that "uncensored" and "not a shit-fest", as time approaches infinity, are mutually exclusive. "Shit flows downhill," as it were. If some sites are kicking people off who (however one chooses to measure the concept) "diminish the tone" of the site, and some sites are not, it stands to reason the sites that do not will end up collecting the sort of comments that "diminish the tone" over…
Yes, that is an unfortunate side-effect of opening up to each and everyone no matter their tastes. Not all is lost though, if they manage to implement a functioning moderation system which allows individual users to limit their exposure to 'shit' they might just pull it off. It should be possible for users to choose a level of exposure, something ranging from 'cesspit' to 'spring water' and everything in between. The default should be just above 'cesspit' so that the most odious comments are 'greyed-out' by default but can easily be seen by those who want to. This should make the system less sensitive to the various forms of group think which moderation systems often stimulate. I had a look around and saw it was possible to 'Block' and 'Report' comments or commenters, this is a start but it probably needs to be fleshed out for the site to have appeal to a larger public.
If it was dropped in 2011, I suspect the criticism also included the fact that every site in the world starting having their own comments section, rendering the thing kind of pointless.
...which a large number of them subsequently dropped for a multitude of reasons, varying from the deluge of spammy comments to the desire to keep unwanted opinions off the site. A universal non-censored and politically neutral comment section would actually be a good thing if only it could be kept from turning into a shit-fest. How the latter can be achieved without ending up with censorship in one way or another is…