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Re: Gab Launches Dissenter: Comment on Any Internet Page

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I had no idea Hacker News was so anti-gab. I guess we know which side of the free speech argument won.

When did freedom of speech turn into freedom to hate and be rude?

The founder on gab has been on here calling other commenters "cucks" and "gullible morons". And telling a mod "Cry about it" when it was objected. Free speech is about ideas, not being a dick.

Re: Gab Launches Dissenter: Comment on Any Internet Page

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post #22

I had no idea Hacker News was so anti-gab. I guess we know which side of the free speech argument won.

When did freedom of speech turn into freedom to hate and be rude? The founder on gab has been on here calling other commenters "cucks" and "gullible morons". And telling a mod "Cry about it" when it was objected. Free speech is about ideas, not being a dick.

That has always been freedom of speech.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/06/19/a-...

Re: Gab Launches Dissenter: Comment on Any Internet Page

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post #14
post #2

Why does the link point to a Google redirect to CNET? It this on purpose for attribution purposes?

I'm guessing someone copied the link from Google results.

Yeah, most likely that. From my experience, Google loves to profit off these oversights.

Re: Gab Launches Dissenter: Comment on Any Internet Page

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post #22

I had no idea Hacker News was so anti-gab. I guess we know which side of the free speech argument won.

When did freedom of speech turn into freedom to hate and be rude? The founder on gab has been on here calling other commenters "cucks" and "gullible morons". And telling a mod "Cry about it" when it was objected. Free speech is about ideas, not being a dick.

> Free speech is about ideas, not being a dick.

You want to personally try to have civilized discussions where you resolve thorny issues that people are passionate about, and may hold utterly objectionable views about. Any given person should do that even if only from self-interest; why waste your life trolling?

The entire Gab application promotes an intellectual sewer, and that's because its business model (same as Twitter's) rewards bad behavior.

But "free speech" in the context of a protection is generally about needing to protect the speech of people who aren't polite, who have objectionable views, etc. And that's because they are still human beings and, absent material harm, have an inalienable right to self-expression.

Re: Gab Launches Dissenter: Comment on Any Internet Page

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Not only there are multiple plugins that do this now, this is something that was explored by Google itself back in 2009 with Google Sidewiki[1]. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Sidewiki

But how many of those solutions work as well as Dissenter? Do any of them hold a strong position on free speech? Edit: I was genuinely asking because I had not heard of similar solutions prior to today. But go ahead and keep downvoting me. That'll teach me to engage in honest conversation.

I think it's reasonable for a person to have the opinion that Gab's opining on free speech is dishonest, though you, personally, may be positing the opposite in total honesty.

Re: Gab Launches Dissenter: Comment on Any Internet Page

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post #16
post #2

Why does the link point to a Google redirect to CNET? It this on purpose for attribution purposes?

Someone right-clicked a link from a Google search results page.

Oops. That's what I get for not using DuckDuckGo for this. Also I found it interesting that the CNET was the best non-Breitbart source for this announcement....I found it interesting that no other tech site seemed to even mention it yet.

Re: Gab Launches Dissenter: Comment on Any Internet Page

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

When did freedom of speech turn into freedom to hate and be rude? The founder on gab has been on here calling other commenters "cucks" and "gullible morons". And telling a mod "Cry about it" when it was objected. Free speech is about ideas, not being a dick.

> Free speech is about ideas, not being a dick. You want to personally try to have civilized discussions where you resolve thorny issues that people are passionate about, and may hold utterly objectionable views about. Any given person should do that even if only from self-interest; why waste your life trolling? The entire Gab application promotes an intellectual sewer, and that's because its business model (same as…

I'm not that worried about protecting the rights of people to abridge the rights of others, since they're demanding a double standard. Specifically I mean people who say groups of people should suffer a loss of rights due to some perceived inherent defect as opposed to behavior.
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