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Re: Linux Desktop Setup

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Post by meddlepal »

eropple wrote: post #125
meddlepal wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

15 years ago I used to do Gentoo stage 1 builds and fuck around with all that nonsense. Nowadays I slap Fedora + XFCE on my desktop and every 12-18 months I do a major lift and shift upgrade. I run mostly stock settings as well. No you're not a noob. All the nonsense I used to go through was just that... nonsense.

I used to be a lift-and-shift guy, but Fedora upgrades are painless now. I've gone from 26 to 29 on my main workstation and it's been a breeze.

Even with Nvidia drivers?

Re: Linux Desktop Setup

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Post by jamesgeck0 »

_e wrote: post #89

The author mentions the loss of vim-like web browser controls when the Pentadactyl extension didn't convert over to the webextensions api. You get the vim functionality back with the following extensions: Firefox -- Vim Vixen ( https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/vim-vixen/ ) Chrome -- cVim ( https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/cvim/ihlenndgcmojh... )

The Firefox Vimium port is also pretty decent. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/vimium-ff/

Re: Linux Desktop Setup

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Post by tobeportable »

_e wrote: post #89

The author mentions the loss of vim-like web browser controls when the Pentadactyl extension didn't convert over to the webextensions api. You get the vim functionality back with the following extensions: Firefox -- Vim Vixen ( https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/vim-vixen/ ) Chrome -- cVim ( https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/cvim/ihlenndgcmojh... )

Firefox -- Tridactyl

Re: Linux Desktop Setup

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Post by duxup »

jccalhoun wrote: post #115

Every time I have to use the slow windows computers at the college I teach at I wish they would put a lightweight linux on them. I wouldn't go full command line but all I'm doing is a browser and word processing. A chromeos-like experience would be fine. Of course what really kills my work computer is the anti-virus. I f I could just disable that then the computer would be a lot more usable.

I think a lot of places are finding that for them, a ChromeOS experience is all they need.

So many places are just running a webapp on a number of their computers, and that's it.... generally for many tasks ChromeOS is all they need.

Re: Linux Desktop Setup

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Post by jamesgeck0 »

arendtio wrote: post #80
danilocesar wrote: post #7

it's always surprises me that linux developers still care about ctags... There are more powerful solutions and easier to setup (YouCompleteMe, for example). I was completly sold out when I tried for the fist time a few years ago. I was pretty happy to drop all my ctags's related scripts.

Recently I came across https://langserver.org To me, it looks like an upcoming solution to the 'code completion' problem.

Yep! First class Typescript support makes it great for Javascript development too.

Re: Linux Desktop Setup

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Post by likeclockwork »

lostjohnny wrote: post #88
Yetanfou wrote: post #61

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It certainly is a 'desktop', it might not be yours but it bears resemblance to mine. The 'desktop' metaphor might have been equated with complicated all-integrated environments like Windows, MacOS, Gnome and KDE but in the end it comes down on something-on-a-computer which provides a place to work and access to the resources the computer has to offer. Like physical desktops these come in al shapes and sizes ranging f…

> It certainly is a 'desktop', it might not be yours but it bears resemblance to mine It does resemble mine, either. In fact I'm not a desktop user. > or at a lobotomised full desktop like Gnome That's super not nice. Regular people want a tool, not something you fall in love with and spend most of the day refining. Most people have hobbies outside of the tech world, they will spend hours growing their gardens, but c…

Not everything is about those people.

Re: Linux Desktop Setup

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Post by davewongillies »

mgbmtl wrote: post #126
_e wrote: post #89

The author mentions the loss of vim-like web browser controls when the Pentadactyl extension didn't convert over to the webextensions api. You get the vim functionality back with the following extensions: Firefox -- Vim Vixen ( https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/vim-vixen/ ) Chrome -- cVim ( https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/cvim/ihlenndgcmojh... )

A bit tangential, but would you know if there is an extension that would provide Vim bindings only in textfields? I really miss not being able to use regular expressions (or simple search) in a plain text input.

Wasavi does exactly what you want:

http://appsweets.net/wasavi/

https://github.com/akahuku/wasavi

Re: Linux Desktop Setup

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Post by cmiles74 »

oblio wrote: post #122
cmiles74 wrote: post #118

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When I think of a "desktop" computer, I think of a form-factor suitable for placement on a desk. I can stretch that to include a machine you keep under the desk or even a laptop that is attached to an external keyboard and mouse. I don't think about the software installed on that computer at all. Also: desktop computers, in my opinion, pre-date the "desktop metaphor" and GUI environments.

> Also: desktop computers, in my opinion, pre-date the "desktop metaphor" and GUI environments I kind of doubt that. When the metaphor was introduced by Alan Kay in 1970, there were no desktop computers. If you consider microcomputers the first desktop computers, which you should since their predecessors, minicomputers, were "cabinet" computers, then the Micral N in 1973 would be the first "desktop" computer.

I think your splitting hairs on this one. The Micral N also didn't have a GUI environment and it was clearly destined for the top of someone's desk. In my opinion that makes it a desktop computer.[0]

When Alan Kay was working on GUI environments, it was on equipment that pretty much nobody could access, it was very expensive and few units were sold. Still, it's interesting to note that the Altair was not a desktop computer that could literally sit on a desk: it came in a cabinet that was meant to sit on the floor.[1] ;-) The irony!

When Apple released the Macintosh, I believe most people were interacting with desktop computers that lacked a GUI desktop environment. Specifically I was thinking of the IBM PC XT [2], although, as you note, there was more to the field than just that.

[0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micral

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xerox_Alto

[2]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_Personal_Computer_XT

Re: Linux Desktop Setup

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Post by eropple »

meddlepal wrote: post #131
eropple wrote: post #125

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I used to be a lift-and-shift guy, but Fedora upgrades are painless now. I've gone from 26 to 29 on my main workstation and it's been a breeze.

Even with Nvidia drivers?

Yup. Desktop has a 980Ti in it. One laptop has an MX150. The akmods rebuild and things continue as normal.

Re: Linux Desktop Setup

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Post by mxuribe »

Symmetry wrote: post #103
johnchristopher wrote: post #24

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I did. It feels good. The interactions are smoother, file managers are more useful. Had to tweak some shortcuts to emulate some moves I am used to in tiling managers. I went from awesome to KDE (kubuntu 18.04lts). I do webdev, cm and reports at the moment. I believe the terminal only approach suits most sysadmin, devops and the like ; not your run off the mill wordpress dev.

If you want both useful features and good shortcuts you can run a tiling window manager within a desktop environment.

It sounds like a sort of "best of both worlds" scenario...i'm interested in any suggestions. The last several years had me use more debian-centric distros (formerly Ubuntu, nowadays Mint). Is there a pair of DE+tiling WM setup that you suggest might be good? I'm open to recommendations!
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