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Re: Linux Desktop Setup

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Post by lostjohnny »

codemusings wrote: post #98
lostjohnny wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> What is complicated about the setup? Everything. > What makes you think he can't cast media or browse Amazon on his laptop while sitting on the couch? I never said he can't, it just took a lot more time for him than it took for me to do it. Are regular drivers going out for groceries tuning their engine to perfection everytime they need to go buy milk? That's what a desktop is all about, a computer sitting on a des…

> Everything. Terrific non-answer. You seem to be projecting a lot. He never mentioned that it took him a long time to do anything. And just because he doesn't use a readymade workflow or a graphical user interface for some of his applications his setup is not a Desktop setup? > That's what a desktop is all about, a computer sitting on a desktop dedicated to a worker, not a pro, and expert, a tuner, a nerd, a geek, s…

> Terrific non-answer.

It's not.

It's an honest to heart answer.

this is very complicated for a basic setup (https://xmonad.org/tour.html) even if one knows how to do it

> He never mentioned that it took him a long time to do anything

It surely did.

It's not a simple setup, it's a custom tailored "this is good because I can use Haskell" setup

It took a lot of time just to get to understand what he's doing

> This has to be the weirdest bikeshedding argument I've ever seen.

It's not.

It's important to let people know that GNU/Linux is already more than ready for the desktop and that GNU/Linux on the desktop is not about masturbating over complex stuff to get things done

> The only reason I can think of why you're so insistent on this distinction is to brag.

Mate, you're overreacting.

> Yup. There it is.

Dude, you're seriously overreacting.

I did nothing special, just followed some guide on the internet, it took me days to get there, so nothing cool again. It's a multi monitor setup, who does a tech job on the laptop-screen-only anymore?

Do you wanna know the best part?

Until I figured out how to setup HiDPI (another thing that on Ubuntu on my home laptop worked out of the box) I had to use the laptop monitor, a 17 inches 4k, with the font size to 24 or it was to small to even read.

Cool ah?

I'm going to brag about it with Linus now...

It's just something that people who are not tech enthusiasts don't do.

Get used to it.

There's nothing to brag about being obsessed by DIY.

Re: Linux Desktop Setup

#112

Post by wasted_intel »

eequah9L wrote: post #53
javipas wrote: post #40

I'm always kind of amazed at this kind of desktop setups, and I guess they're not suitable for lots of people for the simple reason that most users have a "consumer" relationship with computers and not a "producer" one. My biggest question here for people with this kind of text setup would be: don't you surf the web? Do you use then lynx or another text web browser? What about services and platforms that are designed…

Firefox and a Windows VM are the major reasons for me to reach for my mouse. There's also nm-applet, and obviously gimp and inkscape, but I rarely use those. Oh, and cut'n'paste tends to be easier with the mouse, though xsel can sometimes be useful. Everything else can be controlled from the keyboard. (Like the OP, I use XMonad as well.) For videos in particular, mplayer can be controlled purely by keyboard. There ar…

Try nmcli to get rid of your nm-applet dependency. ;)

Re: Linux Desktop Setup

#113

Post by Yetanfou »

eequah9L wrote: post #53
javipas wrote: post #40

I'm always kind of amazed at this kind of desktop setups, and I guess they're not suitable for lots of people for the simple reason that most users have a "consumer" relationship with computers and not a "producer" one. My biggest question here for people with this kind of text setup would be: don't you surf the web? Do you use then lynx or another text web browser? What about services and platforms that are designed…

Firefox and a Windows VM are the major reasons for me to reach for my mouse. There's also nm-applet, and obviously gimp and inkscape, but I rarely use those. Oh, and cut'n'paste tends to be easier with the mouse, though xsel can sometimes be useful. Everything else can be controlled from the keyboard. (Like the OP, I use XMonad as well.) For videos in particular, mplayer can be controlled purely by keyboard. There ar…

For nm-applet you can use nmtui as a text-mode substitute, works fine for most tasks.

Re: Linux Desktop Setup

#114

Post by morganvachon »

PurpleRamen wrote: post #79
morganvachon wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't understand the gatekeeping and deliberate misinformation in your post. > A desktop is a computer sitting on top of your desk. Besides the fact that the author indicated he's using a laptop hooked up to a 40" monitor, kind of necessitating the computer to be sitting on his desk, his use of "desktop" in general is referring to his everyday workflow. For some people, that's Windows and Windows specific apps. For…

Gatekeeping...I just explained why some people consider the the usage of a term wrong. If you are triggered by people having different knowledge and opinion, then maybe you stay away from communications, instead of starting to insult others...

You claimed that the author had no right to call his desktop setup a desktop setup based on your own made up rules. That is the very definition of gatekeeping.

Also, please tell me where I insulted you. I called you out for gatekeeping and did so rather politely. If you consider a rebuttal to be an insult I’d advise you to grow a thicker skin before interacting with others or you’re in for a lot of disappointment.

Re: Linux Desktop Setup

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Post by jccalhoun »

Every time I have to use the slow windows computers at the college I teach at I wish they would put a lightweight linux on them. I wouldn't go full command line but all I'm doing is a browser and word processing. A chromeos-like experience would be fine. Of course what really kills my work computer is the anti-virus. I f I could just disable that then the computer would be a lot more usable.

Re: Linux Desktop Setup

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Post by mruts »

I use cwm (initially from OpenBSD) and it’s pretty great. Zenburn terminal colors with anti-aliased Consolas as my font.

I don’t understand why someone would prefer bitmapped fonts vs ttf. They really hurt my eyes and look god awful...

Re: Linux Desktop Setup

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Post by cmiles74 »

oblio wrote: post #70
suprfnk wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What makes you the gatekeeper of what constitutes a desktop setup?

I don't know about him, but technically, the definition of a "desktop" kind of "gatekeeps" what that specific word means: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desktop_metaphor

When I think of a "desktop" computer, I think of a form-factor suitable for placement on a desk. I can stretch that to include a machine you keep under the desk or even a laptop that is attached to an external keyboard and mouse.

I don't think about the software installed on that computer at all.

Also: desktop computers, in my opinion, pre-date the "desktop metaphor" and GUI environments.

Re: Linux Desktop Setup

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Post by cmiles74 »

htor wrote: post #116

this is a terminal, not a desktop. and it's really great at being that.

I disagree, I think that a terminal implies connection to a larger computer that is doing most of the work. In this case all of the work is being done on the local machine.

I do agree that this person has many terminal sessions open, but they are also running Firefox, playing music, etc.

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