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Re: Open The Beers And Wait To Be Showered With Job Applications

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Post by wh-uws »

sgrove wrote: post #9

I made it through, but had no intention of actually applying - the space just isn't very interesting, I'm not sure why I'd want to work for this startup in particular, and they're not sophisticated enough to work remotely. Still, the challenge was fun and had a hint of the weebly job challenge to it (though that one was considerably tougher), to the point I was thinking about trying to come up with a series of these…

Please do this. I would love that to practice on.

Like coderloop / the facebook puzzles but web application stuff

Re: Open The Beers And Wait To Be Showered With Job Applications

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Post by 3pt14159 »

edw519 wrote: post #2

Next challenge: trying to figure out which country goes with which color on your pie chart. Use this to screen for the designer you need.

I don't understand why people use pie charts. They are confusing, misleading, and don't fit nicely into square divs.

Re: Open The Beers And Wait To Be Showered With Job Applications

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Post by mmelin »

josegonzalez wrote: post #19
chc wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If they had kids to take care of at the time, I hope they did not spend an entire afternoon working on it without success. And if they took so much time documenting their steps that it made the project take so long they could not complete it, I would say that is a negative indicator. In the end, IIRC it wasn't that hard a test for the sort of person who would be good at the job, so it seems like a reasonable filter.…

I'd like to note that I have yet to pass the test - my first and only attempt was a curl one-liner that I gave up on when I realized I had work to complete :D.

Without giving away the solution I would say that a well-equipped Firefox is a better tool than curl to complete this particular challenge :)

Re: Open The Beers And Wait To Be Showered With Job Applications

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Post by pig »

raganwald wrote: post #8
bdonlan wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or perhaps they consider the skills needed to pass the test easily to be the bare minimum needed for the job, and anyone who can't pass it quickly isn't qualified (but hey, if you learned something from it, good for you!).

Could it be that the issue here is not whether they used a test to filter applicants, but the tone in which they describe their satisfaction with the result?

Did you notice that you framed your statement as a question and thereby made it more persuasive?

Re: Open The Beers And Wait To Be Showered With Job Applications

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Post by fshaun »

maukdaddy wrote: post #5

Many spent an entire afternoon working on this thing without success. I hope they liked the challenge, but I’m also glad we didn’t have to use our internal resources reviewing their resume. How fucking pretentious can you get? Maybe they were busy, maybe they had kids to take care of, maybe they were documenting their steps vs. flailing around. Glad I don't work in the valley if this is the kind of attitudes "rocksta…

I don't understand the outrage. Some completed this in 7-8 minutes. That's quite a difference from spending hours without a result. Add a few of these problems up (which I hope are representative of actual skills) and you're looking at minutes vs. days. Sure, the aside on resources comes off a bit flippant -- but it doesn't mean it's untrue.

Re: Open The Beers And Wait To Be Showered With Job Applications

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Post by [deleted] »

mmelin wrote: post #23
josegonzalez wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd like to note that I have yet to pass the test - my first and only attempt was a curl one-liner that I gave up on when I realized I had work to complete :D.

Without giving away the solution I would say that a well-equipped Firefox is a better tool than curl to complete this particular challenge :)

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Re: Open The Beers And Wait To Be Showered With Job Applications

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Post by acconrad »

I needed to Google around and like 1 hint and got it in about 26 minutes. Does that make me a good web developer? I feel like this is sysadmin stuff. I've personally never done any of that stuff before...is this what happens when you work for an enterprise company and you hide behind Javascript and C#?

Re: Open The Beers And Wait To Be Showered With Job Applications

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Post by phlux »

samd wrote: post #4

"Many spent an entire afternoon working on this thing without success. I hope they liked the challenge, but I’m also glad we didn’t have to use our internal resources reviewing their resume." What a great attitude. People who work hard and challenge themselves are worthless, they don't even deserve the time it takes to reject their application. A person like that would never be of any value to your company. I mean, y…

In many architectural and engineering companies where CAD drafting is a core part of the job, the interview will often end with a drafting test.

You are given a plan or even a set of requirements and are given typically 15-30 minutes to complete/get as far as you can.

This is important because someone may speak well etc - but when it comes to actually completing work (which is typically done by billable hours) some people just wont have the speed or skill to produce the work product.

Re: Open The Beers And Wait To Be Showered With Job Applications

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Post by maukdaddy »

fshaun wrote: post #25
maukdaddy wrote: post #5

Many spent an entire afternoon working on this thing without success. I hope they liked the challenge, but I’m also glad we didn’t have to use our internal resources reviewing their resume. How fucking pretentious can you get? Maybe they were busy, maybe they had kids to take care of, maybe they were documenting their steps vs. flailing around. Glad I don't work in the valley if this is the kind of attitudes "rocksta…

I don't understand the outrage. Some completed this in 7-8 minutes . That's quite a difference from spending hours without a result. Add a few of these problems up (which I hope are representative of actual skills) and you're looking at minutes vs. days. Sure, the aside on resources comes off a bit flippant -- but it doesn't mean it's untrue.

1. Time to complete the task is a terrible metric for white-collar, knowledge work. There are myriad factors to explain the time discrepancies, especially since there wasn't first-hand observation. If this was a job for building a widget on a factory line, then time might be a reasonable metric.

2. Using time alone as a selection criteria borders on discrimination given that some users might have sight or other physical disabilities that require longer to complete the task.

3. Do you really want to work for someone that has that kind of attitude? Oh, you're worthless because you took a few hours longer than John over there. We're not even going to consider your other talents, abilities, capabilities, or creativity that you bring to the table.

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