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Re: Open The Beers And Wait To Be Showered With Job Applications

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Next challenge: trying to figure out which country goes with which color on your pie chart. Use this to screen for the designer you need.

The main problem is that the spread of tints is too small.

If you exclude black and white (and gray scale) you will normally have around 8-10 colors to work with if you don't want your wheel to look too Schizophrenic.

You can choose between:

Dark Blue Light Blue Dark Red Light Red Dark Yellow Light Yellow Dark Green Light Green Orange Violet Beige Brown Pink

You could also use textures (just like in the old IBM matrix printers did) to represent the variations.

I would though normally stay away from more then 5-6 color variations in a pie chart.

EDIT: Although I guess I have fallen prey to the temptation of having colors too close to each other. (see page 11 in this pdf http://000fff.org/uploads/LMG_Visual_Final.pdf )

In defense I would say that you could roll over the individual bars to see the name.

Re: Open The Beers And Wait To Be Showered With Job Applications

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"Many spent an entire afternoon working on this thing without success. I hope they liked the challenge, but I’m also glad we didn’t have to use our internal resources reviewing their resume."

What a great attitude. People who work hard and challenge themselves are worthless, they don't even deserve the time it takes to reject their application. A person like that would never be of any value to your company. I mean, you can't expect people to learn new things and grow professionally while on the job. If they don't already know everything then they are idiots that you want nothing to do with.

Re: Open The Beers And Wait To Be Showered With Job Applications

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Many spent an entire afternoon working on this thing without success. I hope they liked the challenge, but I’m also glad we didn’t have to use our internal resources reviewing their resume.

How fucking pretentious can you get? Maybe they were busy, maybe they had kids to take care of, maybe they were documenting their steps vs. flailing around. Glad I don't work in the valley if this is the kind of attitudes "rockstar" employers have.

Edit: I see they are actually located in NYC.

Re: Open The Beers And Wait To Be Showered With Job Applications

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"Many spent an entire afternoon working on this thing without success. I hope they liked the challenge, but I’m also glad we didn’t have to use our internal resources reviewing their resume." What a great attitude. People who work hard and challenge themselves are worthless, they don't even deserve the time it takes to reject their application. A person like that would never be of any value to your company. I mean, y…

Or perhaps they consider the skills needed to pass the test easily to be the bare minimum needed for the job, and anyone who can't pass it quickly isn't qualified (but hey, if you learned something from it, good for you!).

Re: Open The Beers And Wait To Be Showered With Job Applications

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I just played with that test for fun, it is pretty easy (OK, so HN technical users probably aren't the target here) but I do like it.

Without giving it away and spoiling it... it does well at covering the general things you would want web devs to intuitively know.

I'm more interested in how you monitored this stuff... setting up the test would've been pretty trivial, but getting good data out must've been harder.

Are you recording failed attempts too? So that should someone fail on the last step but have succeeded at the prior 2 steps that you still have the ability to contact them if their CV is good enough too?

Great idea, I like it.

Re: Open The Beers And Wait To Be Showered With Job Applications

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"Many spent an entire afternoon working on this thing without success. I hope they liked the challenge, but I’m also glad we didn’t have to use our internal resources reviewing their resume." What a great attitude. People who work hard and challenge themselves are worthless, they don't even deserve the time it takes to reject their application. A person like that would never be of any value to your company. I mean, y…

Or perhaps they consider the skills needed to pass the test easily to be the bare minimum needed for the job, and anyone who can't pass it quickly isn't qualified (but hey, if you learned something from it, good for you!).

Could it be that the issue here is not whether they used a test to filter applicants, but the tone in which they describe their satisfaction with the result?

Re: Open The Beers And Wait To Be Showered With Job Applications

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I made it through, but had no intention of actually applying - the space just isn't very interesting, I'm not sure why I'd want to work for this startup in particular, and they're not sophisticated enough to work remotely.

Still, the challenge was fun and had a hint of the weebly job challenge to it (though that one was considerably tougher), to the point I was thinking about trying to come up with a series of these just as a weekly exercise to post on hn. Anyone else have ideas for this?

Re: Open The Beers And Wait To Be Showered With Job Applications

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"Many spent an entire afternoon working on this thing without success. I hope they liked the challenge, but I’m also glad we didn’t have to use our internal resources reviewing their resume." What a great attitude. People who work hard and challenge themselves are worthless, they don't even deserve the time it takes to reject their application. A person like that would never be of any value to your company. I mean, y…

"If they don't already know everything then they are idiots that you want nothing to do with."

Well, why should a startup want anything to do with someone who needs training? A startup needs to get as much as possible out of its resources, including individual employees and time. Given that, and all else being equal, it just makes more sense to hire the people with a decent understanding of HTTP for a position related to web development.

It might not have been the most tactful way to say it, but I don't disagree with their premise.

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