Yay. Apocalypse 2.0 on its way. Looking forward to:
1. Any videos with footage of kids in them de-monetised. 2. Comments disabled by default on any sub 100k subscriber channels 3. Mandatory ID verification to be allowed to comment.
Nestle, Disney Pull YouTube Ads, Joining Furor Over Child Videos
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#172Earlier quoted context omitted.
Worth mentioning PayMoneyWubby and his quest to find and show weird sh*t. It's plain crazy what YouTube hosts and some people barely know about.
I watched a bit of one of his videos after it was linked to on here. So creepy! I can't imagine who watches and enjoys all his stuff. He was much creepier and more disturbing than any of the videos he played. Do he and his viewers frame it as investigation, news, valuable service to the community, or something? Just seemed creepy and exploitative (He makes money from showing videos and ranting about no-one should see…
I don't enjoy it either, Reddit does seem to see it as someone "exposing youtube", credit where it's due he brought it to light, but that aside I agree, he's a creep.
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#173Earlier quoted context omitted.
I upload unlisted videos to share with family. I batch and upload them on a monthly basis. Never had an issue with Youtube and my family videos. Last month one video was my daughter fully clothed in the bathroom dumping a cup of water on my son in the bathtub and both laughing. You could only see his head and chest. It was 10 seconds long and funny play between young siblings. It was instantly and automatically flagg…
There seems to be something wrong with this argument. You're displeased that their algorithm is too sensitive and flagged your content as a false positive, right? But then you think they can apply the algorithm more broadly? Wouldn't that just risk many more false positives and irate users?
No. He’s arguing that if the algorithm is capable of detecting his video, it is capable of finding others like it - so if google wanted to remove such videos categorically, it can and currently chooses not to.
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#174Earlier quoted context omitted.
I learned the hard way that youtube is not useful for sharing family videos with a limited audience (ie: immediate family. 10 people, tops.). I uploaded my children's dance recital video, as an unlisted video, and earned myself a copyright strike because of the background music.
Copyright strikes are automatic, and you can dispute ones like that as fair usage.
Since when is recording and publicly publishing a performance that includes copyrighted music licensed for public performance as part of a live event but specifically and explicitly not for rerecording and distribution (as would normally be the case for the type of recital described, assuming the dance studio was on the ball with licensing) fair use?
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I saw the video you are talking about. The worst part is that I disagree with his claim, or rather I don't think he makes a strong argument that these videos are _intentionally_ sexual. It looks to me like a kid doing kid stuff. I might have made the same videos at her age _but_ it is still sexualized by some people. I am not sure what's a good solution to that could be. According to these new articles, it looks like…
Okay, can you reword that? What is wrong with kids doing squats? If nothing, then, what is wrong with timestamping kids doing squats? The only thing I see wrong here is the sexualization, but it'd be us doing it if we assume the reason of the timestamp. Compare: Video of people playing soccer, someone adds a timestamp to a part when a guy passes the ball to another guy, would you think the timestamp was created becau…
It's about context. The context establishes the intent.
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#176Earlier quoted context omitted.
As far as underwear goes, no I wouldn't care if I was under age 3 in the photo. Seeing a kid in a diaper is an everyday public thing. In that case, she was in a diaper rather than a bathing suit because she was still diaper age. I don't see it remotely as something to be embarrassed about. I don't "need" to post publicly but I also have no reason not to. I'm not going to let people having creepy thoughts control my l…
Have you considered that your child might really regret all this stuff you're publishing about them when they're older? I don't exactly care myself but I do appreciate that my kid isn't capable of consenting to having his childhood published. So I don't do it. It seems really odd that you're reason for making that call is, "meh, why not?"
What exactly is "all this stuff"? Photos of her playing?
I think about things she might actually be concerned about, but I see no reason she should be concerned about it, so no I'm not going to worry about it. If I was concerned, it might be about "should I put her in a dress or have her wear pants?" Because if she is wearing a skirt, someone could see her underwear, god forbid. YouTube or not.
At least on YouTube, it's pretty hard to follow someone home like can happen in the real world (e.g. Jayme Closs).
You know what I spend my efforts worrying about? Her getting hit by a car. Drowning. You know, real things.
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I don't have an answer. But what I can tell is that video I linked above... I'll give 99% probability easily, that this video was made for purpose, with sexual context in mind, most probably by some adult person, not another kid, and it is not "just kid having fun", and it's not "family video". This is softcore erotica with 12-14 y.o. girl, and it was made to be a softcore erotica. There is literally zero other reaso…
If you don't know anything about ASMR you might think that. But that's pretty standard content in the ASMR-sphere. The only difference is that it's being made by a preteen.
> But that's pretty standard content in the ASMR-sphere.
The "ASMR-sphere" is soft-core pornography in denial. "No you've got it all wrong, I watch it because it gives me a tingling feeling..." Yeah I'm sure it does.
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#178>On Sunday, Matt Watson, a video blogger, posted a 20-minute clip detailing how comments on YouTube were used to identify certain videos in which young girls were in activities that could be construed as sexually suggestive, such as posing in front of a mirror and doing gymnastics. I looked at some of the videos that appeared in his report and it's basically family videos of young girls, the same kind of videos my ow…
The problem is not the videos being there, its the advertisments next to them. Youtube simply needs to move to a proper gatekeeping model around monetisation, requiring human review and biannual review checks. Start it at 10,000 subscribers to avoid being overwhelmed. Prompt once-off approval for 'viral' trending videos from new channels (even if the advertising money goes completely to Youtube). The internet is matu…
What does monetization have to do with any of this, except as a hook to attack youtube and bait advertisers to respond? Monetization is entirely irrelevant to the problematic issues at play.
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Some posted a video of a guy who was making this same sort of video, but about a 13 year old doing ASMR. That's actually creepy. I don't think we can stop pedos leering at kids online. In person you can tell them to get lost or call the cops.
I saw the video you are talking about. The worst part is that I disagree with his claim, or rather I don't think he makes a strong argument that these videos are _intentionally_ sexual. It looks to me like a kid doing kid stuff. I might have made the same videos at her age _but_ it is still sexualized by some people. I am not sure what's a good solution to that could be. According to these new articles, it looks like…
Yeah, whoever made those articles are the ones sexualizing innocent videos. Makes you think...
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#180Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you don't know anything about ASMR you might think that. But that's pretty standard content in the ASMR-sphere. The only difference is that it's being made by a preteen.
> But that's pretty standard content in the ASMR-sphere. The "ASMR-sphere" is soft-core pornography in denial. "No you've got it all wrong, I watch it because it gives me a tingling feeling..." Yeah I'm sure it does.
Spoken like someone who doesn't experience the physiological ASMR response. As someone who does experience it, you're obviously speaking nonsense.