Youtube wants to cater to everyone but to me it is clear Youtube is a risky place for a child. I let my kids use the site but I have no expectations of anything less then we are seeing here and try to keep an eye from behind. But I myself have found these types of wormholes he talked about in the video. Searching for massage techniques and saw a pretty girl so clicked it then next thing I know I am down a worm hole of naked women being massaged on Youtube. Another worm hole is the one pointed out by another youtuber about breastfeeding videos. You search for breastfeeding and you will see these creepy videos pretending to be educational but clearly are just a video of a woman showing her breasts and a child feeding. Then came across videos that seem to be educational but really it was just a large breasted woman standing naked and the video described all her lady parts with close up shots. So to me clearly youtube has all sorts of crazy things from how to have sex to how to build weapons. I am not kidding myself that it is a kid hostile environment. I do find that they have do many good videos for kids so allow my kids on the platform. I just do my best to keep an eye what is going on.
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#32>On Sunday, Matt Watson, a video blogger, posted a 20-minute clip detailing how comments on YouTube were used to identify certain videos in which young girls were in activities that could be construed as sexually suggestive, such as posing in front of a mirror and doing gymnastics. I looked at some of the videos that appeared in his report and it's basically family videos of young girls, the same kind of videos my ow…
YouTube should just disable comments on all videos
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#33>On Sunday, Matt Watson, a video blogger, posted a 20-minute clip detailing how comments on YouTube were used to identify certain videos in which young girls were in activities that could be construed as sexually suggestive, such as posing in front of a mirror and doing gymnastics. I looked at some of the videos that appeared in his report and it's basically family videos of young girls, the same kind of videos my ow…
>but what else do you do here? I don't have an answer, but considering the size of Disney and Nestle cumulative marketing budget, youtube engineers will be hard pressed to do something .
Youtube is not facebook, and judging by the continued neglect of youtube's comment system I doubt their ability to add fine grained privacy control, especially since they abandoned Google+ integration.
This isn't a new problem as their comment subsystem has been a usability nightmare in years. When a comment thread geta to a certain length, following the conversation and pinging specific replies become increasingly difficult. The late John "Totalbiscuit" Bain had to turn off comment on all his videos and direct all discussions to Reddit, because once the comments start to get rowdy it's impossible to moderate.
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#34>On Sunday, Matt Watson, a video blogger, posted a 20-minute clip detailing how comments on YouTube were used to identify certain videos in which young girls were in activities that could be construed as sexually suggestive, such as posing in front of a mirror and doing gymnastics. I looked at some of the videos that appeared in his report and it's basically family videos of young girls, the same kind of videos my ow…
> it's basically family videos of young girls, the same kind of videos my own sisters would shoot with our dad's camcorder. Your family camcorder videos probably weren't made available for checkout at the public library, filed under "young girls doing gymnastics" in the library's card catalog. If they were, I imagine your family and many members of the public would be creeped out or upset. > but what else do you do h…
Not sure that analogy makes sense. YouTube makes it pretty clear you are publishing your video to the public when you upload the file. You actually have to confirm the video is going to be public. It's not like YouTube is raiding the family archives for the content
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#35>On Sunday, Matt Watson, a video blogger, posted a 20-minute clip detailing how comments on YouTube were used to identify certain videos in which young girls were in activities that could be construed as sexually suggestive, such as posing in front of a mirror and doing gymnastics. I looked at some of the videos that appeared in his report and it's basically family videos of young girls, the same kind of videos my ow…
>I only saw harmless videos of kids having fun when I looked at his own examples.
Have you seen this -- https://youtu.be/M78rlxEMBxk?t=364 ?
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#36Do big advertisers have a way to pick what creators / channels they advertise with? It seems like they don't give the number of times they've completed pulled out.
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#37Earlier quoted context omitted.
> it's basically family videos of young girls, the same kind of videos my own sisters would shoot with our dad's camcorder. Your family camcorder videos probably weren't made available for checkout at the public library, filed under "young girls doing gymnastics" in the library's card catalog. If they were, I imagine your family and many members of the public would be creeped out or upset. > but what else do you do h…
Not sure that analogy makes sense. YouTube makes it pretty clear you are publishing your video to the public when you upload the file. You actually have to confirm the video is going to be public. It's not like YouTube is raiding the family archives for the content
> YouTube makes it pretty clear you are publishing your video to the public when you upload the file
After working in tech for long enough, you realize that no one reads anything, even if its absolutely clear in the UI. And they will blame you for it.
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#38>On Sunday, Matt Watson, a video blogger, posted a 20-minute clip detailing how comments on YouTube were used to identify certain videos in which young girls were in activities that could be construed as sexually suggestive, such as posing in front of a mirror and doing gymnastics. I looked at some of the videos that appeared in his report and it's basically family videos of young girls, the same kind of videos my ow…
The issue isn't so much the content of the videos; for the most part, they could be altogether innocent and within the guidelines that YouTube, and the law, requires. The issue is the community that has developed around them. > Ban kids uploading a video of their innocent pool party because some creeps might enjoy it? What about topless babies? The children are unable to agree to the terms and conditions set forth by…
How is anyone being exploited here exactly?
> The children are unable to agree to the terms and conditions set forth by YouTube
Which means that children should not be able to upload any kind of video to youtube, but it should be fine if they upload it to say an ftp server for public domain videos that does not impose any terms and conditions, right?
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#39>On Sunday, Matt Watson, a video blogger, posted a 20-minute clip detailing how comments on YouTube were used to identify certain videos in which young girls were in activities that could be construed as sexually suggestive, such as posing in front of a mirror and doing gymnastics. I looked at some of the videos that appeared in his report and it's basically family videos of young girls, the same kind of videos my ow…
> it's basically family videos of young girls, the same kind of videos my own sisters would shoot with our dad's camcorder. Your family camcorder videos probably weren't made available for checkout at the public library, filed under "young girls doing gymnastics" in the library's card catalog. If they were, I imagine your family and many members of the public would be creeped out or upset. > but what else do you do h…
but what else do you do here?
Not attempt to monetize your family videos. Disable ads on your own videos.[1]
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#40>On Sunday, Matt Watson, a video blogger, posted a 20-minute clip detailing how comments on YouTube were used to identify certain videos in which young girls were in activities that could be construed as sexually suggestive, such as posing in front of a mirror and doing gymnastics. I looked at some of the videos that appeared in his report and it's basically family videos of young girls, the same kind of videos my ow…
>I only saw harmless videos of kids having fun when I looked at his own examples. Have you seen this -- https://youtu.be/M78rlxEMBxk?t=364 ?
My issue is that whenever the topic of "child exploitation" comes up, there's always a lack of specifics. Both the specifics of what we're actually referring to and the specifics of an actual solution.
Instead, everyone (like every media outlet and internet comment) casts a vote against "child exploitation". Who wouldn't? And the discussion stops there. "Whatever they're doing, it needs to stop!"
For example, I bet most people aren't thinking "whispering girl" or "family video of daughters playing in the pool" when they hear the phrase "child exploitation". And maybe most people think Youtube is no place for those videos, fair enough. But the taboo subject and the lack of specifics creates an incredibly charged and blind environment that makes it hard to have a real discussion.
So let's be specific here: what kind of action should be taken against this whispering girl's video and what kind of policy does Youtube need to have at scale?