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Apple’s Latest Macs Have a Serious Audio Glitching Bug

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Re: Apple’s Latest Macs Have a Serious Audio Glitching Bug

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Post by ksec »

siquick wrote: post #14
uvu wrote: post #3

Generally, Apple MacBook Pro suck since 2017!

Not sure why this getting downvoted. Had my MBA for 6 years and worked perfectly the whole time, just needed to install a new battery after 4 years but that was a personal preference. I've had my MBP w/o touch bar for 13 months and I seriously regret spending $2300 on it. - The keyboard is continually sticking, the left Command key is now completely separated from the keyboard and falls out all the time. I make so ma…

>Not sure why this getting downvoted.

Because it not since 2017, but since the 2016 MBP. The 2015s aren't perfect, but they were really good. When we had wished the next iteration would itch closer to perfection, they made a bloody mess of it.

Re: Apple’s Latest Macs Have a Serious Audio Glitching Bug

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Post by komali2 »

ajross wrote: post #25
komali2 wrote: post #7

That's a weird glitch, and generally I'm not a fan of apple hardware (I think it's overpriced, that their keyboards suck, that they don't have enough ports, and I don't enjoy working in osx), but this article comes off as almost biblically haughty. Apple should have tests around clock updates affecting external audio quality? I mean, maybe after this bug being discovered, sure, but before, was that a connection that…

To be fair, a MacBook pro is the highest end premium product in this space being used with official software for a well-defined industry use case. That's hardly the same thing as a bunch of developers installing an aftermarket OS on a midrange laptop. And even then, "you have to install a BIOS update" is just shorthand for Lenovo fixed the problem , right?

> Midrange laptop

I mean, a topped out x1 carbon is pretty much the non-macbook business laptop, so this is a bit unfair.

Re: Apple’s Latest Macs Have a Serious Audio Glitching Bug

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Post by gboudrias »

innocentoldguy wrote: post #16

The article tries its best to sensationalize the fact that Apple, gasp of all people, has a bug it its stuff. The reality is that all software and all devices have bugs. I would prefer a more journalistically honest, non-sensationalist approach to writing. Tell me what the bug is. Tell me what it affects. Tell me how to fix it. Done.

I'm about as anti-Apple as it gets and I agree. You don't need words like "alarming" in an article about audio bugs.

Re: Apple’s Latest Macs Have a Serious Audio Glitching Bug

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Post by i_am_proteus »

komali2 wrote: post #7

That's a weird glitch, and generally I'm not a fan of apple hardware (I think it's overpriced, that their keyboards suck, that they don't have enough ports, and I don't enjoy working in osx), but this article comes off as almost biblically haughty. Apple should have tests around clock updates affecting external audio quality? I mean, maybe after this bug being discovered, sure, but before, was that a connection that…

Technically, nothing works for Linux on the X1C out of the box, because the X1C ships with Windows. Or "no OS" if you're a corporate buyer.

I love that several distributions of Linux are basically turnkey solutions for most systems (I run Ubuntu on both of my Thinkpads!), but it's not quite fair to compare Lenovo hardware running a 3rd party OS with Apple's vaunted "it just works" hardware/software combination.

Re: Apple’s Latest Macs Have a Serious Audio Glitching Bug

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Post by 0xADEADBEE »

mrinterweb wrote: post #20

I have a 2017 MBP, and it regularly has audio issues, among other issues. Sometimes I'm able to kill the audio daemon, and get my audio back. Other times I have to reboot (sometimes I have to reset the PRAM in order to get audio back). I have audio problems at least once a week. I know two other people with 2017 MBPs that have the same regular issues I do. I assume there are many more. I feel that recent Apple laptop…

I'd agree with this. I don't recall backlash against Apple products to the extent I've seen in places like this over the last two years, ever. I don't think anyone can argue against the notion that the quality of hardware and software is much lower than previous models of basically anything in their range and I don't think I'll buy another Apple product outside of a replacement iPad, so presumably there's some sort of change afoot. It'll be fascinating to see how this plays out; so called 'techies' are often the people family and friends consult for advice on new purchases, and if we're not recommending Apple products, will that make a difference? I don't think they care - they're rich enough not to worry, perhaps, but it's still odd to alienate a demographic this way. I'm sure they know something I don't!

Re: Apple’s Latest Macs Have a Serious Audio Glitching Bug

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Post by csomar »

_asummers wrote: post #19

Semi-related: But does anyone know why unplugging headphones while audio is muted causes the audio to become unmuted? This is easily my least favorite bug and results in a 10 second shuffle of frantically finding the mute button again, sometimes with the laptop closed. It seems like something that would never pass QA in previous iterations of Apple, though I could be remembering the past more fondly than was true.

It is not a bug. It is the default behavior. If you don't want to have sound after unplugging headphone, just set the volume of the speakers to mute.

Re: Apple’s Latest Macs Have a Serious Audio Glitching Bug

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Post by tmikaeld »

sbr464 wrote: post #8

I hope that fix mentioned works! I just changed the time setting now. I use an iMac pro, I’ve definitely noticed it over the last few weeks, typically when several chrome tabs are open or heavy use it seems. I also noticed it pretty bad when using a Universal Audio Arrow device, and web midi also. Currently I close chrome and reopen to fix. Happens every 1-2 days.

As mentioned in the comments on the link, it doesn't work. It just lowers the amount of "clicks". I noticed the bug the same day the Mac mini 2018 came out and have found no solution.

Re: Apple’s Latest Macs Have a Serious Audio Glitching Bug

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Post by PascLeRasc »

godzilla82 wrote: post #22
_asummers wrote: post #19

Semi-related: But does anyone know why unplugging headphones while audio is muted causes the audio to become unmuted? This is easily my least favorite bug and results in a 10 second shuffle of frantically finding the mute button again, sometimes with the laptop closed. It seems like something that would never pass QA in previous iterations of Apple, though I could be remembering the past more fondly than was true.

Have you tried reproducing this with other headphones, 2 channel ones etc.

Not sure if it's present in OS X, but I know at least iOS has impedance memory, so it'll recognize specific headphones and set the volume to what it was last at when they were plugged in. It's a really nice feature.

Re: Apple’s Latest Macs Have a Serious Audio Glitching Bug

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Post by csomar »

siquick wrote: post #14
uvu wrote: post #3

Generally, Apple MacBook Pro suck since 2017!

Not sure why this getting downvoted. Had my MBA for 6 years and worked perfectly the whole time, just needed to install a new battery after 4 years but that was a personal preference. I've had my MBP w/o touch bar for 13 months and I seriously regret spending $2300 on it. - The keyboard is continually sticking, the left Command key is now completely separated from the keyboard and falls out all the time. I make so ma…

I might be the exception here but the 2018 Macbook Pro keyboard is the best I've typed on. It is accurate, quiet, requires very little effort to push the buttons. I don't feel muscle fatigue typing on it.

> and people also complain about how loud the keyboard is when Im typing.

We must not be using the same keyboard. The mbp is quietest I've even used to date. Everything else doesn't even come close.

> The battery life barely lasts more than 2 hours while the MBA lasted 5 hours for exactly the same use case.

That's weird. Mine lasts 8-10 hours. It lasts a good 6-7 hours of daily work, watching videos, compiling C code, playing an intensive game and extensive Chrome browsing.

> - If someone trips over the power cable then the whole laptop moves, on the MBA the magsafe just disconnected and no harm done. - Having to use adaptors for USB devices is now getting really tedious.

The mbp is supposed to be a desktop replacement computer. Get a usb-c hub. You'll be able to charge the device, connect all your devices (and screens!) from one single usb-c. Put the hub close to the Mac. But yes, I do miss the magsafe.

I've lots of complaints about the new MBP but none of the points you mentioned above. I suggest you take it to an Apple shop for some diagnosis.

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