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What ABC called "pink slime," USDA now says can be labeled "ground beef"

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Re: What ABC called "pink slime," USDA now says can be labeled "ground beef"

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You're not the first person in this thread to claim that it's "mechanically separated". Do you have a source for this?

Straight from the producers of pink slime. http://www.beefusa.org/CMDocs/BeefUSA/Resources/AMI%20Fact%2...

Mechanically separated beef has a specific definition, and this is not that. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mechanically_separated_meat#...

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That's the process. Bits of meat with ammonia going around in circles.

No. They spray a mist of ammonia over the meat to disinfect it. It's not an ingredient.

But does the end product contain ammonia? If it does, then it's an ingredient.

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https://impossiblefoods.com I’m just going to leave the future right here

More heavily-processed industrial food products, yum!

FFS, this gives the people what they want without imprisoning and killing cows for food. Maybe have some evidence that it’s unhealthy before you bullshit a negativity next time

Re: What ABC called "pink slime," USDA now says can be labeled "ground beef"

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Straight from the producers of pink slime. http://www.beefusa.org/CMDocs/BeefUSA/Resources/AMI%20Fact%2...

Mechanically separated beef has a specific definition, and this is not that. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mechanically_separated_meat#...

Then call centrifugal separated beef. It isn’t ground beef.

Re: What ABC called "pink slime," USDA now says can be labeled "ground beef"

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If an industry lobby pushes enough, a state "food standards" organization will call anything food.

After all, they don't start with a "let's not divert from regular wholesome food" as a mission statement. So why not allow all kinds of crap as food, as long as they are barely edible and with no obvious side effects?

Worked fine since the 50s in the US, and the quality of the food the average american eats (and their health) keeps improving... /s

Re: What ABC called "pink slime," USDA now says can be labeled "ground beef"

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I think the article linked in the posted one does a better job explaining what's "news" about this: https://newfoodeconomy.org/bpi-pink-slime-ground-beef-usda-r... > Since 1994, the government’s stance has been clear. Lean finely textured beef (LFTB) has been a “qualified component” of hamburger, meaning it can be included in ground beef without being independently disclosed. But it could not itself be called ground…

Ok, we've changed the URL to that from https://qz.com/1552580/the-us-government-has-redefined-pink-... . Thanks!

I'm sorry, the languaging in this re-linking sounds like so much like industry shilling. "That product is then sterilized with a strong puff of ammonia gas to kill pathogens, as beef trimmings are especially susceptible to contamination."

With an elaborate explanation for each "terrible sounding" detail (what is this "puff" exactly, etc).

... except the sum total of the "terrible sounding" stuff is actually distinctly unappealing imo and only by stringing things across elaborate, carefully couched discussions is it plausible-seeming that this is "ground beef".

Basically, pink slime is highly processed leavings of beef that cannot be used except by putting it through more or less a blender and a chemistry lab. That fact leaves many consumers nervous when this is revealed. And this ruling isn't about whether you can produce this stuff but rather whether you have to tell people about it. Most people would like to know. You can judge the ruling based on that.

Re: What ABC called "pink slime," USDA now says can be labeled "ground beef"

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The "pink slime" story is mostly fake news. ABC News coined the term, and later paid $177 million to settle a lawsuit over it. It was the largest defamation settlement in the history of the United States. The story took on a life of its own, though. This image[1] became synonymous with "pink slime" (and still appears in a Google image search for the term) even though nobody knows where the image came from. Didn't sto…

>The "pink slime" story is mostly fake news. ABC News coined the term, and later paid $177 million to settle a lawsuit over it. It was the largest defamation settlement in the history of the United States.

I'd say this "beef" is fake meat -- whether some court agrees or not (that depends on who has the best lawyers and deeper pockets, not on who has the best food).

I'd be OK with companies being allowed to sell all kinds of crap as foodstuff, if they didn't highjack on existing food labels as it's the regular beef people know to fool consumers and paint a picture.

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Why is this supposed to upset me? If we're going to keep eating animals (and that sure is my plan), we shouldn't give ourselves the luxury of getting squicked out over using the whole animal. If you're picky about what's in your ground beef, find a butcher you trust, or grind your own.

>If you're picky about what's in your ground beef, find a butcher you trust, or grind your own.

Yeah, god forbid food standards agencies get picky themselves about what's in our food, or at least reserve the traditional names of meats for non traditionally produced / sourced foodstuff.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

No. They spray a mist of ammonia over the meat to disinfect it. It's not an ingredient.

But does the end product contain ammonia? If it does, then it's an ingredient.

If you let your steak dry before cooking, do you list the airborne dust and bacteria as ingredients?

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Why is this supposed to upset me? If we're going to keep eating animals (and that sure is my plan), we shouldn't give ourselves the luxury of getting squicked out over using the whole animal. If you're picky about what's in your ground beef, find a butcher you trust, or grind your own.

This is why I haaaaaaaaate the Jamie Oliver chicken nuggets video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKwL5G5HbGA

Except for the part where the kids totally no sell his smug act and he just stands there dumbstruck. Those chicken trimmings are... chicken. Human history is the history of us figuring out how to extract more edible bits from the animal than our jaws can along (that's how we got soup, among a lot of other things). The idea that we should only eat the most presentable primal cuts of the animal is bizarre and weird to me.

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