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Re: Chrome will Soon Let You Share Links to a Specific Word or Sentence on a Page

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Post by SquareWheel »

mstade wrote: post #72
kkarakk wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

if you don't specify a timeframe you can't be contested and therefore your nostalgia reads like it is for a time that never existed except in your mind

Judging from this chart[1], definitely somewhere between 2008 (the x-axis starts at 2009, but if I recall correctly Chrome was released in 2008) and second half of 2012. Possibly the original comment was referring to a larger time span than this, but judging from the linked chart that's when Chrome was still on the up-and-up compared to IE. In my opinion though, this timeframe was 2008 to about 2014, when Google (and…

I remember writing websites at that time. Developers were worried about there being "yet another browser to support". It was a big deal because supporting all the browsers was already a lot of work. Nothing rendered consistently. Javascript would run fine in one browser, but not in other. You got to deal with fun features like quirks mode and worrying about transparent pngs. You had to use Flash if you wanted to embed a video.

The web is a completely different place today. Everything renders consistently across the different browsers - even Edge for the most part. Javascript is a modern language now. Video/audio embeds were finally standardized. Layout tools are significantly better with flexbox and soon, grid.

The idea that we were at some web standards pinnacle in 2008-2012 is crazy to me. The pinnacle is now.

Re: Chrome will Soon Let You Share Links to a Specific Word or Sentence on a Page

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Post by ummonk »

adrianN wrote: post #57
SquareWheel wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If building from scratch maybe, but when was the last time a browser was built from scratch? Even Chromium was forked from WebKit.

That's my point. The web is so complex that browser engines are becoming a monoculture. Even if you forked Chromium now, you'd need hundreds of engineers just to keep up with all the new things that are constantly added.

Yeah, I was rather sad to see EdgeHTML go. Although I never used Edge, rendering engine diversity is good for the ecosystem.

Re: Chrome will Soon Let You Share Links to a Specific Word or Sentence on a Page

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Post by myfonj »

Back in the days of yore, I've made a super simple userscript [1] that was used in my close circles exactly for this purpose; basically is just

    window.find(document.location.hash.substring(1))
And yes, it was really convenient to exchange links without need to add "and there search for %word%". I haven't probably seen any other use of window.find [2] ever since.

[1] http://userscripts-mirror.org/scripts/review/8356 [2] https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/Window/find

Re: Chrome will Soon Let You Share Links to a Specific Word or Sentence on a Page

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Post by SquareWheel »

emerongi wrote: post #75
SquareWheel wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What does that even mean? AMP is built on WebComponents, which are an existing web standard. That's no less standard than anything else using custom elements.

They are caching a chunk of the web and routing traffic from google.com to their cache. Since traffic never leaves google.com, it is now in a way the web itself. This is achieved thanks to AMP.

Technically that's AMP Cache, not AMP itself, but I get your point. It's worth noting however that both Cloudflare and Bing also run their own instances of AMP Cache.

https://amp.cloudflare.com/

https://blogs.bing.com/Webmaster-Blog/September-2018/Introdu...

Re: Chrome will Soon Let You Share Links to a Specific Word or Sentence on a Page

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Post by nerdponx »

gcb0 wrote: post #80

Real use case for this is so Google can poke into context for links shared via services they have no ownership. They got used to know exactly what people share and, much more importantly, what people click on email, thanks to gmail rewriting all links to a google track url (while misleading the user by a fake status text on mouse over). When they sum the info of 1. who send it, 2. who clicked on it, 3. what was the e…

It's a shame because it is actually a good idea, but now Google has first-mover advantage, so any other implementations will just be a clone of what Google already did.

Re: Chrome will Soon Let You Share Links to a Specific Word or Sentence on a Page

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Post by frobozz »

pgeorgi wrote: post #70
_bxg1 wrote: post #14

It seems like more and more, Google is leveraging their near-monopoly on web browsing to just skip the proposal process and do whatever they want without discussion.

web standards are descriptive not prescriptive, and have always been: nobody asked before adding the tag to their web browser, it was just added (and later removed) after it was used by more than one implementation and consensus was found how it's supposed to behave. For example, WebSQL died because there was only one implementation: implementations come before the standards.

Not strictly true.

In the W3C process, a Working Draft can be written before any implementations. Even a CR doesn't need to have been realised. To progress to PR and Recommendation, it needs to have implementations.

WHATWG is more descriptive, HTML 5 has been described as a collection of everything Hixie has seen somewhere on the web and thought cool.

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