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I disagree with that. Valencia was a good old variety from the 'blancas' group of oranges, but is not the best variety. There are even better Valencia oranges (the newer "Valencia seedless " delta and midnight varieties for example). And many navels score higher for taste also than Valencia.
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It's stupid honestly, fruit juice are healthy in normal quantity. Like everything don't abuse it.
Just like alchohol, but that's not how people think of the juice they buy at the grocery store.
Being a east central Florida native, I grew up picking Valencia's off neighborhood trees, before the terrible canker in the 90's forced the state agriculture office to basically bulldoze and burn every non-commercial orange tree in the state. IMO, the real treat is fresh squeezed grapefruit juice, not orange. Fresh grapefruit juice tastes nothing whatsoever like the stuff they sell in markets, and has a sublime flavo…
I agree about grapefruit but I think the best way to eat is is halved with a bit of honey on top. This way I get all the fiber, more of the vitamins, and still get a healthy dose of delectable juice as a reward.
As a kid, I was a fruit maniac, my favourites were Granny Smith green apples, grapefruit, and really strong, sour oranges (we knew someone who sold them in huge bags from their house, I've never tasted anything like them since, my mother made incredible juice from them too). I never realized they're all on the not-so-sweet side until reading the "Fruit is evil"-type comments here. Also I loved grapes from the vine outside my window, passionfruit, mangoes, strawberries, (all home-grown), and peaches, pears, rockmelon, honeydew, nectarines...gee I'm making myself hungry.
I grew up on a small orange farm in SoCal and have never heard of a Californian saying Florida oranges were better. We could get almost year round oranges locally so I’m not really sure why the author would inject that Californians would say Florida is better. We also grew navels and valencias. The navels were amazing for fresh juice if you drink it right away. If you really want to treat yourself, go find some Ojai…
I too grew up in SoCal and remember eating backyard grown oranges as a kid - nothing is better than a fresh orange, I dont bother with boxed juice most of the time, I'd rather eat the fruit.
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It’s not “just sugar.” It’s mostly fructose , the worst sugar, known to stress the liver like alcohol. And unlike most other calories it does a poor job of triggering satiation. Fruit juice is evil.
To expand on my post, I should add: Fruit is evil. The fruits we buy in the supermarket (or hipster organic farmers market) bare little resemblance to the less sweet and less palatable fruits that humans would have eaten prior to cultivation. Through an ongoing process (over multiple millennia) of artificially selecting for higher sugar content, we have turned nature’s fruits into the equivalent of candy bars. If you…
Vegetables are great, too.
I'm fortunate to live by local Florida orange growers. Nothing like juice made from Valencia Oranges. The economics of Oranges and juice are fascinating. In Florida, we had a major outbreak of citrus canker that made most of the oranges grown here unsuitable for sale by USDA standards (still safe for consumption). So, off to the juice factory to be stored in those massive vats.
interesting. in SoCal there are a lot of urban citrus trees growing amongst the houses and apartments, including Valencia oranges. most of the time, the oranges are a bit on the tart side, but there are some sweet ones here and there. IDK what makes the difference. maybe sun exposure on the tree, or more cold weather in a given year. in any case, i'm surprised at how many go to waste. ... which leads to my question:…
Globalisation happened. People basically does not care about it, but new plant diseases are a big problem for the economy of a country.
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interesting. in SoCal there are a lot of urban citrus trees growing amongst the houses and apartments, including Valencia oranges. most of the time, the oranges are a bit on the tart side, but there are some sweet ones here and there. IDK what makes the difference. maybe sun exposure on the tree, or more cold weather in a given year. in any case, i'm surprised at how many go to waste. ... which leads to my question:…
Sweet citrus needs heat. You can grow sweeter fruit farther from the coast. If you're near the coast, plant it in an area that collects heat. Citrus needs a lot of fertilizer. I finally did the calculations one year and I was astounded at how much nitrogen I needed to apply. Once I did, I got amazing yields. Micronutrients are important too, but man, that nitrogen. In socal, stick to an acidifying source like ammoniu…
Grapefruits suffer even more with cold than oranges
The real story here is not that Tropicana is chemically adulterated fruit-derived sugar water produced and stored at industrial scale. The real story is that the USDA lets PepsiCo call this product “juice” even though it’s nutritionally indistinguishable from Coca Cola.
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I'm even more fortunate: I live in Spain so I order Valencia oranges directly from producers in the actual region of Valencia. When not on season, I buy oranges from South Africa or wherever, but I can't stomach the bottled juice. I don't know what flavor pack they use here but it doesn't taste even remotely like the real thing, I'd rather make juice from the worst oranges in the supermarket than drink bottled.
Normally I wouldn't want to burst your bubble, but one-upsmanship is a pet peeve of mine. The Valencia orange was developed in California; Floridian Valencia oranges are just as valid.
Your comment would have been much more pleasant and no less informative to read without that first sentence. The only "one-upmanship" I detected was yours.